Issue with Mikrotik Wireless Installation

Hi Guys

Firstly, before i go any further, i don’t want this to come off as a Mikrotik bashing post, it definitely isn’t. I’ve used Mikrotik gear of a number of projects including wireless back-haul links, some advanced routing setups and as a VPN concentrator.

Quick bit of background. I work for an IT support consultancy, we provide Support contracts and maintenance and for small business and education clients in our neck of the woods.

We have recently taken over support for a school who are having issues with their wireless solution which they installed about a year ago. The company who sold them the solution marketed it as a site-wide wireless solution able to deliver high density, high-speed wireless access to classrooms full of laptops etc etc.
One of the reasons we were called in is to help them diagnose some issues with the wireless and upon attending the site and performing a bit of investigation we discovered that the solution was based on Mikrotik hardware, namely RB433’s with R52n wireless cards in. This surprised me a little, as (in my experience) you don’t normally find Mikrotik stuff used in this kind of setup.

Anyway, long story short the points are very badly configured, they are all set to use the same frequency/channel (they arnt too far apart so there is major overlap). The wifi cards are N capable but have only been configured as B/G, they have direction antennas instead of omni’s, the installer has set the regulatory domain to US (were in the UK).
What I’d also say is that as far as I am aware, RouterOS isnt designed for dynamic RF management or seamless client hand-off?

The other strange thing they did was to install a RB450g inline between the schools main Windows Domain Controller/FileServer and their switch, it had the hostname ‘traffic-shaper’ so I assume it was some sort of attempt to improve network stability. After some rigorous testing i discovered that in fact the opposite was true, it was a slowing file transfers down to ridiculously slow speeds. I’ve since taken this box out and performance has improved dramatically, I cannot for the life of me work out what on earth posessed them to do this?

What I’d like to know is if anybody here can tell me if the above configuration is would in any way meet a best practice Mikrotik setup? I want to have my facts straight before i confront the installer and ask what they were trying to achieve when they set this system up.

Like i said first off, I am in no way bashing the kit, its good kit, it just seems to me like they tried to fit a square peg in a round hole. We generally use either Ruckus or Uniquiti Unifi (depending on price consideration) as these are more geared towards this kind of setup.

Opinions?

/j

I haven’t done anything quite on this scale. I’ve got several hotels, motels, offices, but max of 5-7 AP’s at a location.

The majority of my work is as a WISP.

I am currently running a RB411AR w/R52n at my home right now, works quite well.

I would alternate the channels and drop the tx so that each AP saw each other at around -70 if possible. I’ve had good luck with seamless roaming, but that is highly dependent on the client. My laptop works great, my old phone would hang on to an AP for a little too long.

If you really need fast roaming WDS repeating seems to handle that well, but it has a few shortcomings, which become quite rough on larger networks.

I would say they were trying to throttle wireless users with the 450. Are there multiple wireless networks? Did the 450 give some networks priority over others? I would also be interested in what they are trying to do. Do you have the config?

As for mikrotik acting as APs we love them and set them up quite often. You are going to have problems with any wireless operating on the same frequency. If setup correctly you should be very happy with the system.

I do not see any problem with the 433 and r52n being used as AP. But yes we do prefer omni’s over directional panels when working on a campus wifi. They should have kept b/g/n as many laptops do support “n”
And using same frequency does not affect much if u have planned the setup with proper testing.
AS for 450G as a traffic shaper - they might be using it to generate access-list and bandwidth control … we have used many. Slowing down the speed from their file server because they did some speed limiting there too.
I think they would not have completed their work and u arrived mid-way :slight_smile: :laughing: :laughing:

If not all the end user device can support N, I preferred set the AP run on b/g mode for better Channel planning…

All same channel its not the right thing BTW…