Hello there! i am facing a very strange issue with Mikrotik PPPoE client setup. I have running PPPoE server on RB2011. When connect directly through the designated Ether port on which the PPPoE server is running to dial up client PC it works and connected like a charm, but when connected through same designated Ether port bridged to an AP and using RB433 as a PPPoE client through Wlan port it doesn’t get connect at all and keeps dialing to connect Why this is so? Any further assistance from Mikrotik experts and/or Mikrotik officials here will be appreciated greatly. Thanks.
Make sure there is layer2 connectivity from the RB433 ether port where the pppoe-client is to the 2011 ether port where the pppoe server runs.
when you say bridged with AP are you referring to an AP on the 2011? or to a separate device? If so, is it a mikrotik? you should check bridging/switching between its wireless interface and its ethernet interface for true layer2 transparency.
A configuration export from the involved devices (2011, AP and RB433) will help considerably, edit out any sensitive information.
Hello pukkita! Thanks for your reply. I really heartily appreciate. Please refer to the attachment for the actual network topology diagram. If you require more info please let me know i would be more than happy to provide it to you on this. Thanks.
I’m afraid mixing different brands (RocketM2 with RB433) isn’t a good idea. You lose TDMA (AirMax and nstreme/nv2 aren’t compatible).
Additionally, your probably comes from the fact that ubnt gear doesn’t provide true l2 transparency unless WDS is on, so you’ll have to setup the RB433 for that, maybe using station-pseudobridge or station-pseudobrige-clone mode.
You can use IP > PPP > PPPoE Scan to check if there’s PPPoE server reachability.
I m having the same problem with the same configuration
i try to be a PPPOE client on TP-Link router and it is worked while PPPOE client on RB is not working
Sure ! I know that its not a good idea to mix Ubiquiti network gears with Mikrotik, but was trapped in a saying with a WISP provider that Ubiquiti works fine with Mikrotik and there is a good compatibility between them to configure and bought the Ubiquiti products for my WISP setup and have been invested a good amount of money on this. Now i realized that i made a big mistake and now looking for a solution to make this work out.
Secondly, could you please be more specific and explain how to config PPPoE client with station wds at RB433?
Ill check for PPPoE scan also.
Hello Sinan! Could you please let me know how do you config. your Ubiquti network gears link to get connected to TP-Link? All your PtP airgrid M5 are WDS enabled? Also, your Airmax Rocket M2 is config. as a WDS enabled? Did you activate Uboquiti Airmax feature for PtP connectivity on all the Radio? Thanks.
oooh i m using Omnitik as a transmitter but the users are using Ubiquti devices as a receiver and we dont use the WDS It directly worked also i connected a TP-Link router directly to the RB-2011 and it worked well
Oh i see! okay got it. Ubiquiti works fine at end user side, but i think in carrier grade network it creates some issue and secondly its simple plug and play end user radio and less advanced routing features like MT.
It’s not a matter of compatibility, of course there is compatibility in 802.11 mode, any device supporting it should be compatible.
The key point is 802.11 has some issues and lacks scalability for PtMP, that’s why TDMA protocols were developed, to address those issues (hidden node, etc) and provide better PtMP scalability.
By using 802.11 on your node you are “shooting yourself in the feet”, by hindering performance of all your clients and wasting your investment.
Have a look at Pavel Ciepliński http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/HU11/technologic.pdf presentation:
Here is a PtMP test Pavel carried out with with 10 wireless clients and regular 802.11; notice what happens when adding the fifth wireless client:
Same PtMP test using a TDMA protocol (nstreme) this time:
It’s very illustrative of what happens with performance as you keep adding clients to the node.
The only solution is using same brand on CPEs and AP so that you can enable TDMA (either Nv2 or AirMax)
nstreme is an older mikrotik TDMA protocol, which has been slowly phased out for PtMP deployments, though is great for low latency PTP.
For PtMP the newer Nv2 is the protocol you should be using.
You can “standarize” your network by leaving a given sector with a majority of a given brand with just that brand: AP and same brand clients, replacing different brand CPEs (keeping them for other, same-brand sectors) so you can enable and run TDMA on the AP and all connected CPEs.
For example if the majority of CPEs for the AP node running the Rocket M2 are mikrotik:
- 1.- Replace that Rocket with a Basebox 2 in 802.11 mode for a start so it keeps compatible with all devices. If you have WDS enabled on ubnt CPEs you’ll have to enable it on the Basebox.
2.- Gradually replace ubnt CPEs one by one with Mikrotik ones, with both 802.11 and nv2 configured; they will be connecting in 802.11 as they will follow AP settings.
3.- Once all gear is Mikrotik, enable Nv2 on the Basebox so that all CPEs switch to Nv2.
Another plus: you will ease configuration and avoid headaches with things like WDS, etc. And of course Mikrotik manageability (amongst other things) is far superior to ubnt.
Disclaimer: while I have done this, all the setups were temporary and I don’t recall all specific details, so test in a controlled environment first, and start deploying only once you figure all the quirks out, and everything is crystal clear to you.
There is nothing specific to PPPoE, al that is needed for PPPoE to run is true L2 connectivity.
As on your case is it a wireless connection, what you have to figure out is RB433 wireless configuration. I have never setup that config (ubnt AP with mikrotik client) so cannot help you on that; just use station WDS and test for PPPoE server “visibility” with the PPPoE scan or client.
An export of the RB433 config, and screenshots of the wireless AP settings will be useful to help.
There should be posts about this, so maybe a search will help you out with the specific details.
I missed the fact that station-wds is only compatible with ROS APs, you’ll had to try either station-pseudobridge or station-pseudobridge-clone on the RB433.
Hello Pukkita! Thank you very much for keep assisting with my problem. I really heartily appreciate this.
Sorry for this, as stated before for the time being i can’t replace any one of the network gears and go for to buy extra ones as per my budgeting issue and already been invested a good extra amount on setting up this network infrastructure in the field. But for your kind information i am just going to start-off and no client on the network at this time. I am still testing the performance of the network and its link connectivity to the client end through DHCP client/ Hotspot and PPPoE client at my NOC before launching the service. So I want to fix any problems and would like to give one more try by reconfiguring the network as per your provided assistance to connect PPPOE client with the running network and get back to you with the outcome of this test. Thanks.
Hello Pukkita! Thank you very much for keep assisting with my problem. I really heartily appreciate this.
Sorry for this, as stated before for the time being i can’t replace any one of the network gears and go for to buy extra ones as per my budgeting issue and already been invested a good extra amount on setting up this network infrastructure in the field. But for your kind information i am just going to start-off and no client on the network at this time. I am still testing the performance of the network and its link connectivity to the client end through DHCP client/ Hotspot and PPPoE client at my NOC before launching the service. So I want to fix any problems and would like to give one more try by reconfiguring the network as per your provided assistance to connect PPPOE client with the running network and get back to you with the outcome of this test. Thanks.
Ok.
BTW, which version are you using on the RB433? 6.33 seems to have issues with the pppoe-client.
Hey Pukkita,
I have connected Mikrotik SXT Lite2 at CPE end and tried to get connected to the network and PPPoE client get connected on this easily, but not connecting to the internet. While i close PPPoE client connection and test with activating DHCP client it gets connect and also runs the internet without any issue. Why this is so? Why PPPoE client not running internet after get connected while with the DHCP client internet connection does work well ? What configuration am i missing on SXTLite2? And/or is there anything with network connectivity issue with Ubiquiti devices in the network on AP side? I think it can’t be, but not sure. Need further assistance.
Secondly, please give me some time i’m not sure about the RB433 version running on this let me check and get back to you after testing on this also for the PPPoE connectivity.
And thanks for keep supporting me on this.
Please post a configuration export of each mikrotik device…
If connecting via the SXT2 PPPoE works, but cannot get to internet, check which ip, mask, dns and gateway the PPPoE client is getting, and compare with same parameters obtained through DHCP.
Okay! thanks for keep assisting. I’ll check with all these parameters.
Could you please let me guide how to export mikrtoik configuration i didn’t gone through this process ever before. Thanks.
Open a New Terminal and issue:
/export
Copy and Paste the text editing out sensitive info.
Okay! Thanks for this.
May i know please what sensitive info to edit/remove in selected config. export file and even also for future reference if any before publishing on any public post? Thanks.
adding “hide-sensitive” to that command will already omit passwords, if you want to hide anything else (SSID name, MAC addresses, etc) you wil have to edit them.