Just going to leave this here...

ccr2004-1g-12s+2xs
ccr2016-1g-12xs-2xq
ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+
ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2
ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2-60

All referenced in a kernel object file in v7.0b5…
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Also this…
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This is getting better and better… :smiley:

https://sg.alagas.shop/mtik-ccr2004-1g-12s-plus-2xs.html
https://tw.alagas.shop/mtik-ccr2016-1g-12xs-2xq.html

I don’t understand XS, XC, and XQ.

XG makes sense.

Are they deprecating C+ ?

According to the links @Paternot found (but are gone now), XS would be ‘40 Gigabit’ and XQ ‘40 Gigabit combo’. With ‘40 Gigabit’ being (I assume) 40GBASE-T (because of the ‘combo’ bit, and we already have ‘Q+’ for QSFP+ 40G).

To my great surprise 40GBASE-T actually exists as a standard (it’s defined in IEEE 802.3bq), but who in his right mind would ever use it? It needs a CAT8 cabling plant, which nobody has, and makes no sense to install even on a greenfield because just going to OM4 is cheaper. And even if you had one it then only reaches 30 meters! And if 10GBASE-T is any indication, you can probably use the tranceivers to boil your tea…

Nope, not seeing it.

Any guess what can be this 3 variations also what 60ayD could mean?

ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+
ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2
ccr2004-2g-2xc-2s+/r2-60

Gone? Stupid me - should’ve got some screens…

Intresting. The ccr2016 variant, AL73400 possibly?

40GBASE-T seems crazy.

All hail Google cache! :smiley:
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ccr2016-1g-12xs-2xq.png

Ah! Didn’t think of google cache. Interesting prices too; 10K NT$ is only US $334,=. Somehow I don’t think they’ll be that cheap :smiley:

I don’t think they are the real prices. Many sites do this: put an impossible price, when the item is out of stock.

Yeah, might well be an AL73400, even if the network specs seem a bit low for that (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapurna_Labs). It’s 16-core, and MT has experience with the Alpine platform in de RB4011.

@normis, 'fess up. What are the lot of you cooking up in the dark cellars of the MT Skunk Works? :laughing: :wink:

My point was:

  • G means GBASE-T so X would just mean 10
  • XQ should actually be QC if XC replaces C+
  • There’s nothing that says 40 in XS and it would be unrelated to SFP

I agree that ‘XS’ as 40GBASE-T doesn’t make much sense, but the specs that shop gave for them do indicate that ‘XS’ means ‘40 Gigabit ethernet’ of some sort, and ‘XQ’ meaning ‘40 Gigabit ethernet (combo)’. And the strings from the 7.0beta libs also point in that direction. That ‘XC’ seems to replace ‘C+’ as 10G combo port I agree with.

Al in all, it’s confusing.

Terragraph?

Some clues here? https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Product_Naming#CloudCoreRouter_naming_details

Yeah, might be 802.11ay.

So this was in a wiki modification from July 2018 that lacks a comment.

OK, now that makes a lot more sense. a CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS has 12 SFP+ ports and 2 25G SFP+ ports, and the CCR2016-1G-12XS-2XQ has……12x25G & 2x100G? :open_mouth:

I want to see prices for that CCR2016… And I want to know what’s pushing those boxes. I don’t think the Alpine SOCs will cut it for speeds like that, not even the AL73400/Graviton.

What else? Dual chain.