hello all, i’ve been a mikrotik/routerOS user for a few years now, but i really only understand basic networking features (enough to get online, add firewall rules, open ports, etc). i come to you with a very specific issue, maybe the brilliant minds here can assist me.
i currently own the new RB5009UPr+S+in router (great job Mikrotik BTW), and am currently looking at the chateau 5G ax model. i’m trying to persuade my wife to let me buy the chateau 5G AX so that i can “donate” to calyx institute and get an unlimited 5G sim. i am aware that the chateau 5G ax can do IMEI spoofing, so i should have no problems using it as a gateway (and as a passthrough so that the router will do all the level 3 work).
what i want to do is:
use the chateau as the gateway to “get internet into my house”
pass the data through to the router using the 2.5GbE port
use one of the ports on the router to connect BACK to the chateau 5g so that i can use it as a wireless access point.
i know rOS is very flexible, is this possible? how would i go about configuring the chateau to function as a gateway AND as an AP?
i hope this is clear enough, thank you for any help you guys (and gals) can give in advance
Dont understand what you are trying to accomplish.
The RB5009 is a better router in terms of routing it can actually handle a 2.5 gig ISP connection with firewall rules implemented. The latest chateau 5G AX cannot ( good for 1gig fiber ).
There is no need for the chateau to do routing if you have the RB, it can simply act as an access point/switch.
There is even no need to worry about using capsman as you only will have the single wifi device, so that greatly simplifies the config.
Personally I would have to understand your location to see what is optimal for wifi coverage.
Being forced to put the WIFI device where the modem is, rarely is the best spot for one wifi device in a house.
In any case, you can accomplish what you want …cake and eat it to.
Simply,
a. keep 5009 as your main router…
ether1 from normal ISP
ether2 TRUNK PORT from Chateau ( acting as an AP/Switch/LTE passthrough modem )
Ether3-X normal LAN outputs.
TRUNK PORT ( connecting the two 2.5gb ports. )
VLAN66 ( simply to carry LTE signal to RB5009 ) as WAN2 input on DHCP CLient settings!
VLAN99 ( managment VLAN from RB to chateau and the subnet the chateau gets its LANIP from )
VLAN11 ( HOME VLAN from RB to chateau) used for HOME user wifi. → could also double as the trusted vlan (vice having a managment vlan).
VLAN20 ( guest vlan) used for wifi guests at home.
In other words, there is no need to change the regular order of the devices for this to work…
ISP modem—> RB5009 -------> Chateau <------- LTE
ok, so i think i should probably elaborate on my setup and situation.
i am moving soon, and where we are going to live has awful wired internet speeds. it does however have great tmobile coverage, which means i will be switching from a traditional wired internet connection to a 5G wireless-based home internet configuration.
my goal is to receive 5G internet using the chateau 5G ax as my internet gateway device. i am aware that the 5009 router i already own is a better router, this is why i wish to use it as my actual router (which i mentioned in the OP). the reason i dont want to use the chateau for everything, is because i already have the 5009 configured the way i like (firewall rules, filters, routing, static ips, etc) and because it is faster than the chateau (routing-wise). once the routing is performed by the 5009, i want the chateau 5g ax to also function as the AP for my home network.
if i were to use the chateau as a standalone device, i would sacrifice speed as well as the ability to use my 5009 and everything else i have connected to it.
tl;dr i dont want the chateau doing all the heavy lifting on the LAN end if i have a 5009 already integrated into my LAN. i also dont want to buy another device strictly for AP functionality.
EDIT: i dont think i’m being clear, there will be no wired ISP utilities at this new house. i will be running 100% off of the chateau 5G. NO CABLE MODEM
Sell the RB5009, there is no need to keep it when you get the chateau 5G AX.
To me its pointless to keep both.
Give the RB to family or donate to some organization, it would be wasted otherwise.
There is nothing to be gained by keeping it.
The same rules can be used on the Chateau as its the same ROS!!
i’ve been mulling over how to respond to you for a few days now, and i’m not sure why you need me to justify what i’m running behind my LAN to justify my purchases, but since you made the comment, i’ll respond:
the reason i bought the 5009 is because im using 7 PoE ports to power 7 raspberry pis, (VPN server, pihole, plexamp server, homeassistant, a minecraft server, retropie, and a presearch node. i also have a plex server running on my synology nas (which i’ve enabled link-aggregation on), and i power a PoE enabled netgear AP. those are running off of my multigig switch that i have trunked to the 5009 over sfp+ i did this so that i wouldnt throttle a typical 1G link b/w switch and router, the 5009 allows me to trunk @10G. i like to simplify my wiring, so rather than have a rats nest of PoE injectors, i power everything off my PoE-compatible router and switch.
i came to the beginners forum so that i could ask a simple question and get help from fellow mikroik enthusiasts without ridicule or someone questioning my reasoning for buying the hardware that i did. you come off a bit arrogant and elitist. mikrotik exists to sell products, i dont think they’d approve of you telling people not to buy their hardware or to “donate it or give it away to family”.
i’m here to learn, i welcome others to assist in helping me choose the correct mikrotik product for my home network.
You came here looking for reasons to ‘convince’ the wife to spend money.
Just wanted to help the cause by better understanding the scenario because what you initially presented was a very weak case.
Anything is possible between two MT routers.
Use the concept provided in post #2.
Trunk port between the two devices.
ON it runs three maybe four vlans.
a. vlan to carry internet via the LTE link - terminates on IP dhcp client.
b. vlan to carry back LAN traffic to Chateau ( home subnet for lan ports or wifi )
c. vlan to carry back LAN traffic to Chateau ( guest wifi )
d. vlan to manage the chateau (where it gets its LANIP) Note this could simple also be the home LAN if trust..
