as Metarouter doesn’t seem to be usable on RB450G in the forseable future and I therefore don’t put any trust in Metarouter on MIPSBE in general, I would like to ask the community about exeriences on the above mentioned PPC based Routerboards.
The top candidate would be the RB800 as this boards fits my 19" enlosure, in which one of my RB450G at the moment is working together with an ALIX based server.
So if anyone could share his experience with Metarouter on PPC I would be very happy.
I don’t want to spend more money unless I’m sure i can use the feauture on these systems.
obviously i am talking about error reports. There where some that where diagnosed and resolved, but that was when MetaROUTER was just introduced as a feature.
what puzzles me is the fact that Metarouter seems to be most usefull on CPE devices, you even mention this in your Manual.
But according to you, the most stable Metarouter platforms are the PPC based boards which are to expensive for CPE usage.
You once even promoted the RB450G as an ideal platform for Metarouter.
But now all we have is your statement “We can reproduce the error, but whe don’t have any idea what is causing it”. Judging by the posts in this forum, also other MIPS-BE platforms seem to be affected, however not as bad as the RB450G but still not really stable.
So im not 100% confident in any statements which don’t come from actual users by now. In my eyes you should even withdraw Metarouter support on MIPS-BE based boards, as you don’t seem to be capable(why this is the case is beyond me) to deliver reliable support for them.
i would not agree with you completely and here are the reasons in no particular order:
reports and tests show that problem can only be seen (after long wait sometimes) to manifest on RB450G
there where problem long long time ago on all mipsbe that was debugged and resolved
some time ago running side by side RB433AH and RB450G, first never got any problems while the latter could get freezes at some time interval that where not very stable
I am running metarouters on RB1000 and RB800 for years without the problems. mrz is doing that on RB1100 and RB1000
Of course some report on how they cope outside testing environment would be helpful
Sorry thats BS, as I just have written in the other thread.
ALL 3 of our brand new RB450G are useless in regards to Metarouter.
Crashes occuring from minutes two max. 2 hours.
And Yes you have suppout files from me.
you should re-read what i have written here, seriously. To make it obvious - i wrote - there is instability regarding RB450G running metarouter and your respinse - BS, there is instability running metarouter on RB450G
We are running Metarouter on RB1000 and RB433AH. The 433AH has been unstable since Install on site (metarouter running from day one). It would lock up and become unresponsive and required reboot to fix. Rebooting the metarouter usually fixes it for a few days. We have a watchdog set on the 433AH that reboots if it can’t ping the metarouter. Currently reboots once or twice a week.
RB1000 appears stable(ish). Only have two units running Metarouter. One is stable, one is not - but I don’t know if it is Metarouter or something else causing the instability
I also wonder if anyone is actually using MetaRouter in REAL production scenarios. I almost never hear about it here, and all of my own experiences with MetaRouter have been BAD.
It has such great potential and uses, but if it isn’t stable, then it is no good.
Having used MetaRouter in production, and subsequently had to replace it with physical routers), I am pretty sure there is no production application for a product this unstable. I have trialed it on RB433AH, RB1000 and RB1100. ALL became unstable and would randomly lock up. Removing Metarouter from each of these devices returned them to stable working order, so my conclusion is that it was MetaRouter causing the issues. We have tried them with various OS versions up to 5.7 without success. The principle is fantastic and I hope to be able to use a stable version some time in the future, but for now it is not something that can be used in a production environment.
Thank you for your input Murray,
that seems to acknowledge my theory that Metarouter isn’t just unstable on MIPS boards, but has general issues lying burrowed in the software itself.
If MR would work the uses would be fantastic, I once considered suggesting a Routerboard with MR as a CPE to a big German ISP I do consulting services for. MR would be a much more (enterprise) customer friendly solution then VRF, but only if it where stable.
MT is missing big opportunities here, if they would take more care of software quality they could easily compete with RAD or Adva in the MAN CPE area. But with the software quality and support(especially for MR) they deliver, no bigger ISP would consider using their products.
while there are open tickets about MR on MIPSBE (some boards) there are no open tickets about MR on PPC. Also, there where open tickets on RB433AH, but not for last 2 years, and if where, then was resolved by configuration changes (if guest was RouterOS).
