MacOS and Linux are not thát different IMHO.
MacOS is BSD based (closed source), Linux is … well, Linux (open source). Both are Unix derivates, however.
Problem will be mostly in difference between Mac/Linux and Windows, I guess.
The issue doesn’t exist when doing NAT, only when WLAN < Bridge > ethernert > server.
I’m facing the very same issue… running version is 7.7
I have tested the setup by drop in replacement of the existing cheap AP - place, obstacles, distance and devices operating are exactly the same. Environment is the same.
I’m so much disappointed with AX3 performance… jaw dropped… testing stations never reaches more than 300 Mbit/s real speed to NAS or Internet (AP-> 1G LAN ->virtual pfSense router on i5-12600 server, so fast as it can be-> 1G internet) and it never ever negotiates more link speed than 400 Mbit… it is also very unstable, drops to very low MCS and low speeds (80-108 Mbps)
Interesting thing that this 300 Mbit seem to be some cap as it mostly equal 300 sharp.
My testing laptop and phone (MacBook Pro 2019, 802.11ac 3/MIMO, iPhone 11 which is 802.11ax 2/MIMO) are about 2.5 meters away from the AP in a straight line. Last machine tested was win11 PC with Intel ax 210 nic. This one stands closest to the AP - 50 cm, antena to antena.
Usually, when stations moved away even slightly from straight line, the connection drops parameters even harder, then stations decide to move to … further AP which is 6-7 meters away behind brick wall and wooden door, it is Asus AX55 (same radio configuration as AX3)
All of this happens in 5Ghz band. When it comes to 2Ghz band, performance is even worse… devices close to the AX3 like old printer, old AV receiver, some ESP controllers from IoT can’t catch the radio and moving to Asus. Unusable even in the same room!
Config - rather simple, but adding channels, channel width etc. gave no gain, so I decided to left it as default as possible but still analogue to other devices I use:
/interface wifiwave2
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] channel.band=2ghz-ax .skip-dfs-channels=\
disabled .width=20/40mhz configuration.country=Poland .mode=ap .ssid=\
hardc0re_2G disabled=no name=wifi-2G security.authentication-types=\
wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .encryption=ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] channel.band=5ghz-ax configuration.country=\
Poland .mode=ap .ssid=hardc0re_5G disabled=no name=wifi-5g \
security.authentication-types=wpa2-psk,wpa3-psk .encryption=\
ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256 .group-encryption=ccmp .management-encryption=\
cmac .management-protection=allowed
Channels are different on both APs, for 2 and 5 Ghz bands. There are no other interferences I can notice.
Funny thing that I have replaced … cheap-of-cheapest Xiaomi AX3000 Mesh system box, which barely have any configuration. Very basic thing. On this one, I got full possible negotiated 802.11ac speeds (866 or 10xx something, but rarely) on MBP, and 1200 on iPhone 11. Xiaomi AX3000 has no external antenas. 2Ghz band was giving full range for older devices too…
It looks like some flaw somewhere - usually, from my experience, the problem might be with hardware radio path eg. some shorting to ground, internal interference, problems with antenas and connectors… just guessing. But this behavior is very strange.
What I have checked seems ok. Received power and noise floor for 5Ghz on the stations seem quite good but 2Ghz are terribly bad and very unstable (jumps from very low to good values constantly)
Any ideas what can be wrong with this device? I’m very very surprised by its poor wifi performance, would never expect that from Mikrotik box…
Does this looks like a bridging + TCP + ether1 2.5GbE issue?
UDP works fine.
Still had a chance to access an AX Windows machine but it looks like it’s not a platform issue.
Macbook Air M2 < wifi1 < bridge 1 < ether1 (2.5GbE) < Intel NUC8 with Thunderbolt 10 GbE
TCP - iperf3
Up - Good
iperf3 -c 192.168.99.11 -t10 -i1 -P1
Connecting to host 192.168.99.11, port 5201
[ 5] local 192.168.99.128 port 63183 connected to 192.168.99.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 104 MBytes 870 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 104 MBytes 872 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 102 MBytes 855 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 94.1 MBytes 791 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 92.0 MBytes 772 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 90.6 MBytes 760 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 90.6 MBytes 760 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 91.4 MBytes 767 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 93.0 MBytes 780 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 91.2 MBytes 766 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 953 MBytes 799 Mbits/sec sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.02 sec 950 MBytes 795 Mbits/sec receiver
Down - Bad
iperf3 -c 192.168.99.11 -t10 -i1 -P1 -R
Connecting to host 192.168.99.11, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.99.11 is sending
[ 5] local 192.168.99.128 port 63209 connected to 192.168.99.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 14.8 MBytes 124 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 15.5 MBytes 130 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 13.2 MBytes 111 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 15.6 MBytes 131 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 15.4 MBytes 129 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 13.4 MBytes 113 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 14.7 MBytes 123 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 14.6 MBytes 123 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 13.3 MBytes 112 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 15.3 MBytes 128 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 147 MBytes 123 Mbits/sec 284 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 146 MBytes 122 Mbits/sec receiver
Down - NAT - Good (ISP: 300Mbit Down)
Macbook Air M2 < wifi1 < NAT< ether5 (1GbE) + PPPOE < FRITZ!Box 7583 G.Fast in house 100 meters < FTTB M-Net ISP
iperf3 -c speedtest.wtnet.de -p 5202 -P 1 -4 -R
Connecting to host speedtest.wtnet.de, port 5202
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.wtnet.de is sending
[ 6] local 192.168.99.128 port 64394 connected to 213.209.106.95 port 5202
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 6] 0.00-1.00 sec 33.6 MBytes 282 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 1.00-2.00 sec 40.1 MBytes 336 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 2.00-3.00 sec 40.0 MBytes 335 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 3.00-4.00 sec 40.4 MBytes 339 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 4.00-5.00 sec 40.2 MBytes 338 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 5.00-6.00 sec 40.2 MBytes 337 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 6.00-7.00 sec 40.3 MBytes 338 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 7.00-8.00 sec 40.2 MBytes 337 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 8.00-9.00 sec 38.7 MBytes 324 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 9.00-10.00 sec 38.1 MBytes 319 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 6] 0.00-10.02 sec 424 MBytes 355 Mbits/sec 173 sender
[ 6] 0.00-10.00 sec 392 MBytes 329 Mbits/sec receiver
UDP - iperf3
Up - Good
iperf3 -c 192.168.99.11 -t10 -i1 -P1 -u -b 1G
Connecting to host 192.168.99.11, port 5201
[ 5] local 192.168.99.128 port 56491 connected to 192.168.99.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Total Datagrams
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 114 MBytes 954 Mbits/sec 82345
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 121 MBytes 1.01 Gbits/sec 211465
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 108 MBytes 903 Mbits/sec 285654
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 104 MBytes 869 Mbits/sec 320205
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 104 MBytes 869 Mbits/sec 274020
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 103 MBytes 866 Mbits/sec 314495
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 103 MBytes 868 Mbits/sec 276878
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 104 MBytes 871 Mbits/sec 317805
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 104 MBytes 872 Mbits/sec 275742
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 104 MBytes 869 Mbits/sec 321306
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.04 GBytes 896 Mbits/sec 0.000 ms 0/2679915 (0%) sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 1.03 GBytes 886 Mbits/sec 0.005 ms 1879486/2645129 (71%) receiver
Down - Good
iperf3 -c 192.168.99.11 -t10 -i1 -P1 -u -b 1G -R
Connecting to host 192.168.99.11, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.99.11 is sending
[ 5] local 192.168.99.128 port 57426 connected to 192.168.99.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 116 MBytes 975 Mbits/sec 0.052 ms 1008/85201 (1.2%)
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 116 MBytes 971 Mbits/sec 0.002 ms 2395/86278 (2.8%)
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 116 MBytes 975 Mbits/sec 0.006 ms 2097/86250 (2.4%)
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 114 MBytes 954 Mbits/sec 0.004 ms 3627/85953 (4.2%)
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 117 MBytes 981 Mbits/sec 0.008 ms 2186/86877 (2.5%)
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 116 MBytes 975 Mbits/sec 0.006 ms 1985/86180 (2.3%)
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 117 MBytes 985 Mbits/sec 0.029 ms 1149/86211 (1.3%)
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 114 MBytes 960 Mbits/sec 0.101 ms 3402/86297 (3.9%)
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 114 MBytes 954 Mbits/sec 0.004 ms 4082/86380 (4.7%)
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 116 MBytes 975 Mbits/sec 0.013 ms 2495/86648 (2.9%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.16 GBytes 1000 Mbits/sec 0.000 ms 0/863269 (0%) sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.13 GBytes 971 Mbits/sec 0.013 ms 24426/862275 (2.8%) receiver
Macbook Air M2 < wifi1 < bridge 1 < ether4 (1GbE) < Intel NUC8 with Thunderbolt 10 GbE
TCP - iperf3 -
iperf3 -c 192.168.99.11 -t10 -i1 -P1 -R
Connecting to host 192.168.99.11, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.99.11 is sending
[ 5] local 192.168.99.128 port 64768 connected to 192.168.99.11 port 5201
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 89.0 MBytes 747 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 83.3 MBytes 698 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 86.4 MBytes 725 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 86.9 MBytes 729 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 89.3 MBytes 749 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 77.3 MBytes 648 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 75.3 MBytes 632 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 85.7 MBytes 719 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 87.8 MBytes 736 Mbits/sec
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 78.2 MBytes 656 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.01 sec 842 MBytes 706 Mbits/sec 106 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 839 MBytes 704 Mbits/sec receiver
Thanks for testing.
In that case I guess the remaining action will be to create a supout.rif file and create a ticket towards support.
Make also sure to point them to this thread since you already did quite some testing.
yep, already did both!
Hi theprojectgroup
Would you share your Wi-Fi settings please?
I’m getting bad Wi-Fi speeds and would like a config to get me up and running.
For comparison my
ISP router (a 6E unit), but only using 6 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max is 814 down/230up
hAP AX3 in same spot is 639 down/228up
From further distance, it’s even more prevalent
ISP 6E unit 400 down/200 up
hAP 108 down/78up
Thank you
Hi,
what unit 6E do you have?
What is your range during tests?
I’m afraid you will not fix it. So far, on the current and rc software, ax3 has a worse range than most other modems, including cable. I have the same issue, and I’m really annoyed.
60-100 cm
Thanks! I’ve just downgraded mine. Looks a bit better. Will stay with 7.6 until positive messages from the forum
Hello. I have the Vodafone Pro II Ultrahub 6E - Vantiva produced unit for Vodafone (used to be called Technicolor)
Can’t get anything anywhere near this to match the speeds and range. (Happy for suggestions, anyone 
…)
https://www.vodafone.co.uk/broadband/pro-ii-devices
https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/10/n29318193/vantiva-and-vodafone-deploy-uk-markets-first-wi-fi-6e-gateway
I’ve tried
1/ Mikrotik hAP ax3 - poor, as described above (even with 7.6 FW re-installed )
2/ ASUS RT-AX86U Pro, which is supposed to be excellent, but I’ve found is about 70% as good as the Vodafone unit (same location), same conditions.
3/ Next steps will be separate Aruba or Ubiquiti WAPs and use with the Mikrotik hAP ax3 (I love the software and control/granularity of the Mikrotik - RouterOS - only just learned this, but it’s great) - I’ve hard wired Cat6A everywhere in the house, so it has been recommended to me that I buy multiple AP’s for each zone and turn them down a bit. To be honest, if I could have the Mikrotik functionality with the WiFi of the Vodafone unit (+ a booster for the yard) I’d be a very happy person.
The bizarre thing is the the Vodafone Pro II Ultrahub reaches everywhere in my house, even 2 levels up I’m getting 600 down/300up and this is 12 meters away through blockwork walls. Best WiFi i’ve ever had for a single unit!
I’m also contemplating using the Mikrotik hAP ax3 with the Vodafone Ultrahub router as a dumb access point (not sure how this will work though - i’ll just give it a fixed IP, turn off DHCP and let the MT do it’s stuff). I just wish we were able to get custom firmware for the Ultrahub and flash it and remove the crippling Vodafone software. Can’t find anything about how to do this though as the device is locked down. Also there are separate boosters for the Vodafone unit, but the ethernet backhaul isn’t supported by Vodafone (again locked down by their custom firmware) so no control of these.
MikroTik does not have any WiFi device that can compete with the Vodafone Pro II Ultrahub 6E.
For excellent Router I suggest the RB5009 and for WiFi I suggest the TP-Link EAP660 HD … this combination will provide excellent Routing and EXCELLENT WiFi equivalent to the Vodafone Pro II Ultrahub 6E
Thanks Mozerd.
I had looked at the RB5009, but discounted it due to availability. I might just hang out for this. FYI I’m running a 1gig up/ 1gig down fibre service. The hAP AX3 was my foray into Mikrotik gear and I have been very impressed with the versatility of it… just the WiFi that’s let it down for me.
Appreciate the pointer towards the EAP660HD, however will probably hold out for the EAP770 if it’s due soon. I swapped out 2 x TP LInk EAP225’s and a Cisco 240ac when I installed the Vodafone unit and it really blew them away. Now I’ve had a taste for what’s available, I’m going to try to future-proof and a separate router, with replaceable AP’s seems to be the way forward, as advised!
you should get approx 800Mbit from AX3, your setting is wrong… try to do not select any country…it should boost you up…
Is that a joke, not select a country? Why is there a setting to begin with?
do not cry if you do not understand…
I cry. You happy now?
Yeah, when you put your device next to the antenna, maybe. In real-life usage, it is more like 300-600 max.
You can play with it and check your negotiated rates and how it changes with the location in the terminal:
interface/wifiwave2/registration-table/print detail stats interval=1 where interface ="wifi1"
An interesting thing, as antennas are in theory omnidirectional. in reality turning it 180 deg without adjusting the position can increase the performance. At least it worked for me. Still, I’m far from expectation 