I’m am beginner and plan to setup mini ISP for my community. My ISP line that I subscribed is 300Mbps download / 50Mbps upload. I will use RB750Gr3 as main router connected to ISP router as DHCP client. Then will have bridge1 interface as PPPoE server for my clients. For PTMP (APs<->CPEs) and PTP (APs<->Stations) I will use Ubiquiti. In every client house will have their own wireless router. So I need an advise in term of how many max clients can effort for this kind of setup. This setup also involving double/Triple NAT then need advise also on this kind of networking. Highly appreciate for any advise.
Yep, but you are planning to have 2, 20 or 200 customers?
The 750Gr3 as “central router” seems like a very weak device for many users, but if you are convinced that it is powerful enough and if you have to buy new, a new more powerful version of the hex was just released: https://mikrotik.com/product/hex_2024
at the same list price.
My target is like this, probably 10 to 20 house per community, then each house estimate average 5 users, then total probably will be 50 to 100 users, then my concern not for the device but the speed from ISP is it can cater this scope of my Mini WISP, based on all of your guys experience
With just 10-20 homes, you could probably get away with an RB3011, which will max out around 500-800Mbps with a few firewall rules and NAT.
Personally, for an ISP router, I’d start with something like an RB4011 or RB5009. Those can handle 1-2Gbps with firewall/NAT rules, a bit more with plain routing.
Yep, but you cannot squeeze lemon juice from cucumbers, if all OP can get is:
300Mbps download / 50Mbps upload.
that’s it.
I would assume that some firewall rules will be needed, the 750 GR3 that can be expected in theory to have 265.2 Mbps routing is weak, the hex refresh at 498.1 Mbps seems like more suitable, a 4011 or a RB5009 are the most logical choices, respectively at 2,560.8 and 3096.2, in the hope that the “main” ISP will provide higher speed in a near future, but besides higher speed they have also more memory and storage that may be useful (and faster CPU’s).
I don’t know, but the main issue in a setup where a (not too fast) connection is divided into many households is possibly that of regulating the traffic (bandwidth control) which - besides being complex to setup correctly - will surely demand resources from the router.
The key point here is the available bandwidth, rather than the equipment used.
If you divide everything between 10 “families” pretending they are all childless,
you end up with the internet divided between 20 people, not counting TV with Netflix & Co.
So you would end up providing 15M/2.5M lines with the upload already full when they charge the iPhones and watching something on streaming…
Given the bandwidth constraints & managing an equal share for everyone you are going to have to perform some bandwidth management too. (queuing etc). Now in theory you still have a wireless part where you can slow down stuff on the radio-link(s) I guess.
I tend to agree that a 4011 or 5009 would be a solid choice to start for sure, giving room for some serious traffic-shaping where/if applicable.
Off course budget looks very tight, but what are you looking at spending for the core-router ??
I guess my first concern would be the topology of the links. Specifically if you’re planning on bridging or routing the various links. The bandwidth and router are more easily swapped than not having a good architecture to start.
And sad state of affairs when no one is arguing against this point on forum full of Mikrotik enthusiasts…
If MikroTik has given up on making products for WISP, it is not the fault of the enthusiasts, who are the first to defend it…
When they start making competitive wireless products for WISP, we will talk about it again.