multigigabit desktop router

It’s high time for a desktop router with at least 2 (better 4) 10GbE ports.

Blocker.

How would you use a desktop router with 10 Gb networking? I mean what is the use case?

10G FTTH? It’s coming (my ISP has started a trial), and I could have used something like a beefed-up RB4011 with 2 SFP+ cages. I have a CCR1036 now, but it is both expensive and large (if you don’t have a 19" rack to mount it in).

ISPs have been offering 1Gbps for a long time. SingTel started residential 10Gbps in 2016.

Even coax is being re-wired for 2Gbps. So one would not want to buy a 1Gbps router now. That is what I meant by multigigabit.

2.5, 5, 10GbE computers are inexpensive. 50GbE is not bad, and one could even afford 100GbE.

You can even add it to laptops using Thunderbolt.

Residential 10Gbps is ridiculous.

Oh, I agree. Won’t stop me from getting it as soon as they start offering it, though :slight_smile: I’m haven’t been picked for the trial, alas.

Not when you are downloading 50GB games.

I see there are now cheap USB 3.0 2.5GbE adapters.

This is mass market.

The 4011 does not have USB!

A. Are you sure that source is able to deliver data with 10Gbs?
B. ISPs always oversell bandwith so I’m not shure if they are able to deliver constant multi 10GB traffic to users. Edge routers will limit their throughput.
C. 5 sec vs 50 sec for 50GB download … OMG … what a difference … 50 min vs 5 min. is a difference but less 1min is not a shame.

I know that Steam can fill a 500Mbps connection.

People don’t care about backing up terabytes of games when they have a big pipe.

That is certainly a valid use case [emoji6]

Salt offers it in some places in Switzerland too for $50 a month since 2018 so now Swisscom will make a bigger push in FTTH and join the bandwagon. They also have to fight DOCSIS 3.1 .

Many people back up to the cloud.

NVMe is very common now, but not as a data drive. A case for tiering.

You are correct. Most content providers of any kind won’t let any single user steal all available resources.

It would be better if ISPs tried to deliver stable future proof services and catch up with IPv6.

It will take a long time for ISPs to have a lot of 10Gbps coverage. Enough for most SATA sales to stop.

Meanwhile games have already reached 175GB.

And 8K has not become mainstream yet.

It is mass 2Gbps deployment which is round the corner.

I think the new consoles need 10GbE and SATA Express, as well as BDXL.

It would also be better if one could could put a 3.5" SSHD, as the PS4 is now limited to 2TB (15mm does not fit). OK, you can go bigger with an SSD, but it is expensive.

Optional tiered storage using an M.2 2280 NVMe would be highly desirable. Those on a budget would gravitate towards a SATA M.2 and a SATA hard drive or just an SSHD.

It makes sense for the next generation console to have 2.5 GbE but they won’t.

A console generation lasts typically for 7 years. Even 10GbE makes sense.

They are a fast internet marketing opportunity for ISPs by putting replicas at the edge.

SFP+ could be a good compromise, but maybe the module would be dangerous for small children (or it could be installed inside the case?).

They could also just install antennas so both Ethernet and WiFi would be optional and upgradeable with a small part.

Another profit opportunity, but third party should be possible.

Probably textures bigger than what the screen or SVR needs should not be downloaded.

The adoption rate of faster than gigabit networking in their major markets is slow, even in 7 years the US, Canada, and Japan are unlikely to have widespread 10 GbE in use. I believe in that time we will see widespread adoption of 5 GbE and 2 Gbps WAN in these locations.

All speculation of course, I have a feeling these consoles will have standard 1 GbE and likely 802.11ax wireless.

This being a networking community people often forget, WAN speeds over 100 Mbps actually aren’t common. Most people are perfectly happy in the 30 - 50 Mbps range.