First of all let me tell you that I am totally new in this line. I want to use fiber optic internet and spread it through wifi. I want to cover approximately 20km area (town). Maximum users/clients would be 50. Please advise which hardware will be good for me. There is user management and billing matter. If there is multiple login from different devices, by the same user, the allocated bandwidth should be distributed equally. This would be great to know your opinion about exactly which hardware (model) would be the best for this.
Hi , a configuration like this should be done by a expert at the place , not remotely !
but if you wanna share internet over 20 km area is not very easy , of course not possible with a single or 2 devices.
i recommend you to have several distribution sites , use sector antenna like mANT , and a powerful AP like Netmetal.
Sorry, but I can’t agree with ShayanFiroozi
Any one chain model will be bad idea. Similiary with high power devices, so my advise is to forget about Netmetal. The same with WDS mesh, because of bandwith efficiency.
20km^2 it is not big area for ISP (~4,5 x 4,5km), but you have to explain what is exacly you plan? Will it be normal ISP buissnes, or mobile device hotspot system?
Take the map, make the points where are the customers and where is your connectivity and prepare the dislocation plan. After that count the traffic needs, multiply it by 3 at least and just after that start thinking about the devices.
And don’t believe in word “coverage”. There is nothing like that in wifi world.
Thank you for your reply. This one device can do the all works? And in the specification it is not mentioned the maximum client or coverage. Ok, take ‘coverage’ lightly, but at least this is a factor too - may be small.
Yeah you are right about WDS , but i thought he means 20 Km x 20 Km
running WISP over such a big city is not so easy , if it’s just 4,5 x 4,5 it could be done by couple of SXTs
I do not have a map. It is for the residents of our local area. They would use it like normal internet, on computer and mobile devices too. By the way, will it not like a hotspot? And, what is the difference of mobile hotspot and regular internet? Speed? Because both are internet, and same thing can be done with both. Is there anything that one can do, but other can not?
Oh. With this level of networking knowledge you should consult the fundamental things with someone experienced in your neighborhood and not here. We cannot teach you everything about how to build and manage network on this forum.
Oh, really? Here you talk more complicated things among yourself? If you are too busy to answer, better don’t start replying (understand what is geeky question, what is not by seeing the first question, understand?). Thank you anyway. (stay calm, nothing matters really )
I stayed calm, don’t worry. I just wanted to say that if you mean it seriously with the network, it will be much more effective for you to get some general networking class from someone who is easily reachable for you than just asking tiny questions here time to time and miss the whole concept.
I think you have no idea how it works in wireless , data transmission. A mobile client is not the same as a stand alone client.
I’ll give you two small clues:
1 - Antennas between AP and client need to see one another without obstacles.
2 - A mobile client that connects to the AP with a phone, tablet , laptop .. etc , has a limited distance within 70-100m from AP antenna.
Now I think you can calculate the approximate number of APs required to cover the desired area.
I think many questions like this has been answered several times in this forum and others , with a simple search you can find them and of course many documentations in PDF format are available for WISP.
with all respects sir , you are going to do a complex scenario without any plan or map !! just the name of AP is not your solution
as jarda said it could be done by an expert which is physically present at your place and analyze your scenario
@jarda
I am sorry to post it. Please forgive me if my words did hurt you. You are right. Sometimes it is annoying to reply too easy questions. Specially when there is a new project in your head. Or something other. Anyway, I am sorry. I told in my first message that I am totally new, how would I know, who or which forum answers this kind of tiny questions. Please forget it.
Yes, right. I have no idea. I did not know that the AP and client’s device should be in line of sight. If this is the matter, I should better forget my new project. Because clients would be normally use internet from inside their house, and I can place the antenna on my roof. But they will not see each other. So client will not get any internet. Thank you, you told me this earlier. If I already bought an AP and purchased bandwidth, my total investment would be wasted.
It’s not so much about forgiveness. You came here to get some clue or indication where to go next. So we just tried to help you as well as we could. Sometimes it is not what you were expecting before but finally it should open your eyes and help you to start thinking about the whole thing instead such “unimportant” things like devices. Because you can do great things with bad devices and in the opposite you can do very silly things with great devices. An enthusiasm is really not enough.
This is mainly mikrotik user experience forum and not general networking forum. Even we do help to everyone who asks here, we are trying to give him the hints we believe he needs. Please take it so. If you make some step forward, just come back and share with us. We will try to show you next steps.
I believe you can get interesting knowledge here and on the other websites related to wireless networking too. But you have to do the job, read everything and join it into your concept. That’s something we cannot do for you even we would like.
I have started like this many years ago. I am still reading and learning from others. Trying the things and learning from my mistakes and trying to avoid the mistakes that others did and wrote about that. Not easy. Not simple. And not giving me enough knowledge I would like to have. Because I cannot ask and expect the answer for simple question: please, could you tell me everything I don’t know but I would need?
Yeah. Metaphysics, right? A piece of philosophy for good night. But anyway,think about it…
I don’t think it is possible anymore for me. I don’t have the age and
interest as before, to learn new things. And it seems complicated. I
thought it would be something like hotspot. Well… But is it
really necessary to get the AP and client device to be in line of sight to get
connected? Take care.
** This information are just my personal experience , if it’s wrong any correction appreciated
As frequency goes higher your need more Line of Sight and antennas should be tune perfectly,
in 24 Ghz you have very narrow frequency like a laser !! so tuning antenna could be more difficult , because they need to be exact at the same line , same height , same direction to get your signal.
in 5Ghz it would be better , 2.4 Ghz … 900 Mhz … and so on
that’s why you can listen to radio with complete NLOS , you wanna use 2.4 Ghz , it’s not bad !! you can get signal with nLOS , sometimes with NLOS , it depends on many variables , but in 2.4 Ghz , LOS is not really necessary specially if you wanna share the internet not a Lan connectivity for high traffic applications.
Is hotspot easy to maintain? Like hardware maintain, billing, user management etc. 2km coverage at 1mbps speed, 50 users - how much may it cost? Thanks again.
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