Netmetal AC2 Disappointments

I love my Mikrotik Wireless Wire, fast, great etc.

Use antennas.

you never explained what antennas you connected?

Also, dont use bars, tell us the actual signal strength. Although with an attitude like that i can’t image you getting much help

I don’t have any antennas connected at the moment, but I did order the two HGO OUT antennas, but to my understanding from Mikrotik’s website those are meant for lower range use, not long range. I can’t even go past 20 feet without it starting to disconnect and shit on me.

From Tik’s site:

Two RP-SMA connectors allow adding an antenna of your choice. If necessary, you can adapt the NetMetal ac² for lower range use with such antennas as our HGO-antenna-OUT screw-on omni antenna unit (not included; available for ordering seperately)

Have it indoors for testing at the moment. If I take the T470 or my phone and go farther than about 7-10 feet away it starting disconnecting when trying to run iperf or speedtest.

I mean you can clearly see that your RSSI is -89 which is why your speeds are poor.

you need to put external antennas on

Any reason Mikrotik doesn’t tell us that on their site? The literal description implies antennas are only needed for close range. I can’t go more than 20 feet and expect to get a signal at all!

Literally fraud/false advertising!

Our toughest long-range AP, now with dual-band support

More power and advanced features, with the same design philosophy as its predecessors – the new NetMetal ac² AP is sturdy, reliable, easy to use and extremely capable. This is the best way to add IPsec hardware acceleration to your backhaul link! We have added an out-of-the-box 2.4/5 GHz dual-concurrent (2.4GHz and 5GHz can be used at the same time) band support – no need for additional tinkering!

NetMetal ac² can handle massive loads, as it features an improved 4-core CPU and 256 MB RAM. There is a miniPCIe slot for an LTE or other wireless modules and an SFP port for fiber. The NetMetal ac² can be a very adaptable addition for all kinds of setups.

Two RP-SMA connectors allow adding an antenna of your choice. > If necessary, you can adapt the NetMetal ac² for lower range use with such antennas as our HGO-antenna-OUT screw-on omni antenna unit (not included; available for ordering seperately)

The enclosure has an IP rating of IP54 with protection against splashing from any angle, but it can still be opened and closed with one hand. Very handy in rough environments!

What long range antenna do you recommend?

I forgot my wife said one of the antennas arrived. You were right. Holy fuck.

I think you bought completely the wrong product tbh.

This is used to build PTP wireless links over long distances, not cover your room/yard.

For inside use you should be using hap AC/hap ac2 for outside, not sure, maybe a wap/omnitik will be best.

LOL usually there is a yellow sticker inside that says: Never ever connect without antennas attached.

Damn, someone recommended this to me as a more tough outdoor ap.

You’re were right once, you’re probably right again.

Fuck.

I don’t think I can return this to Euro-dk without a high return shipping fee (Texas to Latvia).

I swear to god there wasn’t. I’m so embarrassed now ffs. I should’ve stayed with Ruckus unleashed or ubiquiti.

I absolutely fully disagree…but choosing the correct product is necessary.

Ran a speedtest on the complete other side of my house, on my S20 Ultra, got 250mbps down. That is like double what the Ruckus gets around here.

This netmetal should be perfect for the BBQ, if not I’ll get the Omnitik like you recommended.

Any recommendations to adjusting my config to get the best speeds/range?

What does antenna gain do? Like does it increase signal or like close range etc? I see the antenna is rated to 5-7dB gain for 5GHz. Not sure if I should put 5 in that box that currently has “Antenna Gain 0”.

Does my config look optimized?

setting the antenna gain will lower tx power to fit inside your regulatory domain - rather leave it, its just going to decrease range.

Click HT, make sure both tx/rx chains 0 & 1 are ticked.

Only other thing may be to select the least occupied frequency (do a scan on wlan2, make sure you are cabled into the device), chose a channel that isn’t being used. Take into account your extension channels i.e. if you are using 5180 as your frequency and you Ceee then 5180,5200,5220,5240 will all need to be as clean as possible

Thank you, will leave gain at 0. The chains are checked for 0 wlan2/5GHz and on wlan1/2.4GHz chain 1 is checked.

Just to confirm, on wlan2/5GHz check chain 0 and chain 1?

Thank you so much for your help, this is why I continue to buy Mikrotik. Yeah ubiquiti and ruckus require less tinkering, but they cost more and have way less helpful communities.

“Antenna gain=0” … advising people to go illegal? The signal will be too strong also! Fill in the real antenna gain, depending on the gain of the used antenna, or higher if you want to reduce the distortion and radiation, if the received signal allows for reduction. The radio will last longer as well.

For tuning, remove the “a” mode, only ac , or n/ac, unless hou still must support a mode devices. The a triggers mixed mode with extra overhead.

Check all chains for all bands. You have 4 chains in total. Using both chains will double the interface rate if the client also has 2 chains.

The netmetal AC2 is a great unit, do not be embarrassed.
Its max flex and allows you to server small area with omni antennas OR longer range with diff antennas.
It comes with dual chains. (AC1200)
It probably has a better capacity to be outdoor then other products.
It can handle IPSEC has lots of guts. Standard ethernet throughput is really decent.
Even can accept an LTE mini slot for external cellular connectivity if your main internet goes down.

I dont see much better options maybe the omnitik 5-AC - which is great for 5ghz but has no 2.4ghz coverage or so it seems. (fixed antennas and limited throughput numbers).
Thus the netmetal covers a wider range of uses.

Thanks for the good laugh at attempting wifi without antennas. I have done similar things LOL

PS. The netmetal is what I would get for outdoor and probably with an antenna that has a 180 sector such that I dont get leakage into the house area.

Thank you, I’ll look into long range antennas for sure. But yeah I don’t know why it didn’t click in my head that antennas were needed.