one or two routerboard to combine two line

RouterOS General
1

I want to combine two ADSL line and Use Hotspot.

So What is better to use one routerboard to combine the two line and for Hotspot?

Or use one routerboard to combine the two line and another one for hotspot and DHCP?

2

it all depends really

everything you want to do can be handled from one board, logically that is

truth be told, we don’t know enough of what you want to do to tell you how to go about it

3

I want to combine the two line using PCC. I have around 50 Hotspot users and Level 5 routerOS. I want to use RB493G to combine the two line and RB435G for the hotspot.

If I use two board, I will have
modem 1 lan : 192.168.1.1
modem 2 Lan: 192.168.2.1

Dual Wan router borard
WAN1: 192.168.1.2
WAN2: 192.168.2.2
LAN: 192.168.3.1

Hotspot routerboard
WAN: 192.168.3.2
LAN: 192.168.4.1

If I use one routerborad , then I will use RB493G. and one it will be one less network
modem 1 lan : 192.168.1.1
modem 2 Lan: 192.168.2.1

Routerboard:
WAN1: 192.168.1.2
WAN2 : 192.168.2.2
Hotspot or LAN: 192.168.3.1

Which one of the two faster? I thought if two are faster is because the divide the two jobs of combining two lines and Hotspot between two Routerboard. And using one routerboard might be faster because this has one less network hop.

4

right, i need a bit more info

your physical setup.

how far away is your furthest client.
I’ve the term hotspot thrown around for a lot these days, are your clients actually using the hotspot system on the mikrotik boards o are they dialing in with PPPoe
where in relation to your antenna location are your ADSLs
is this a new network or are you trying to integrate into an existing one

5

I connect the hotspot Ethernet port to a switch that is connected to several outdoor APs. I have clients at distance of 1km.

There is Also APs that is connected to other AP using WDS to extend my coverage area.

Currently, I have RB450 as dual WAN router using PCC and I am using 3.0GHz Intel P4 PC with 512 RAM with Mikrotik RouterOS installed for the hotspot router but this device is old and I want to switch to better and newer devices.

you can also recommend for me different device but not more expensive that (RB435G and RB493G)

6

hmm, okay, i’m gonna go about based on what i understand

first off you’ll need to tell me what PCC is, i never come across that term before, i apologize about that, and i try looking it up but could not find it. anyways moving along
so all your clients are in a L2 bridged environment within the same broadcast domain and they see the mikrotik-PC as the gateway.

so

eth3 - clients
192.168.3.1/24

eth1 - ADSL1

RB:
192.168.1.1/30
ADSL:
192.168.1.2
255.255.255.252

Eth2 - ADSL2
RB:
192.168.1.4/30
ADSL2:
192.168.1.5
255.255.255.252

i set those links to the ADSLs as /30 because, if i understand the layout correctly, that link will have nothing else in it but the ether port of the routerboard and the ADSL, so we might as well make the ip range smaller. that and the fact that i don’t like wasting IPs.

route table add
0.0.0.0/0 with the destinations being 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.5

then just add masquerade to the network and your are sorted



that is the simplest method i can think of for your situation

7

Simplest solution is to use one box. There are several forum posts on how to use PCC along with the Hotspot. It won’t work out of the box, but with a few firewall rules it’s easy enough to do. It’s just mainly a question of how much bandwidth you are running through the box and what other services you are running on it, like web proxy, UserManager, The Dude, QoS, etc.

With 50 users and 2 DLS lines though a 493G is more than likely going to be more than enough for anything you can throw at it. We have standard 450 boards running hotspot networks with PCC for locations that see around 120 unique users a day with no issue.

8

thank you,

I have a steps and code to combine two lines with hotspot but currently I have one PC for hotspot and RB450 so that mean I have two seperate setting ( backyp file)

after using the steps and combining two line with hotspot. I need to extract extra firewall setting and other setting like emails and scripts from both routers and add them to this router.

Do I have to add all those setting manually?

9

I’m not exactly sure of the question. Do a /export from both routers and pull the parts you need out of both. Then copy text into the CLI.

10

One thing that I didn’t mention is that I have hotspot and PPPoE in the same interface so I might need special setting to have the hotspot+ PPPoE + PCC working in the same borad.

In the PCC code with hotspot, you need to add hotspot=auth to all firewall mangle rules, will this mean that PPPoE will stop working

11

PPPoE and Hotspot running on the same interface is not supported by MikroTik. What this means is that even though you might be able to get it to function correctly, an update could very well break it, or trying to add in services could break it.

You can try it and see what happens, that is likely going to be the only way you are going to get an answer to your question.

12

it is working properly without problems when one router is for combining the two lines and another for hotspot and PPPoE in he same interface. If will try to see if combining two lines with hotspot + PPPoE in the same interface work in one router.