pppoe payment reminder with no nat router

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Hi all, I use google translate I hope you understand

from https://aacable.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/non-payment-reminder-for-pppoe-clients-in-mikrotik/
if use one router for everything, and payment reminder with pppoe server with contrack enable and nat to internal proxy it worked without any problems.

for some reason add new router in front of router pppoe server
from source https://aacable.wordpress.com/2018/03/27/separating-natting-from-routing-in-mikrotik/
1st router = firewall,limiter,nat
2nd router = just pppoe server,
because 2nd router contrack disable so it can’t activate nat for redirect to internal proxy

question :
in 2nd router without turn on contrack and nat how to redirect client to internal proxy for payment reminder.
thank you

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you already cut your legs in the premise

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sorry I don’t think I understand, can you use simple english language? is funny if I translate in google translate.

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[ID] Anda memotong peluang Anda dengan asumsi ini. (Tapi jangan menulis dalam bahasa indonesia, ini hanya rasa hormat untukmu)

Selamat Siang.

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so is impossible to redirect to internal proxy without activate contrack and nat.
ok thank you