Good evening, I have been configuring and using Mikrotik products for years, almost exclusively indoor wireless routers. I just purchased 4 pieces of the router C53UiG+5HPaxD2HPaxD (hAP ax³) that i am trying to configure, but only the HomeAP dual selection is present. It does not allow me to set other modes such as HomeAP or WISP AP. Updated to v. 7.16.1 ARM64bit. Other installed devices (hAP ac²) (hAP ac³) updated to RouterOS v7, work correctly. Do I need to install an additional package? Is it a feature of the ax² and ax³ series? Thanks Claudio
It’s known around here that quite some Quickset modes are missing since AX-line came out.
Having said that … a lot of seasoned users rarely use it (if ever).
I never do.
Good evening holvoetn, thanks for the reply. Solved the doubt of the mode, the problem is that the product is completely empty. Every single page and line must be filled. Even resetting and loading the factory programming, it is empty or partially empty. With all the other wireless routers (ac), the wireless section was already largely programmed. In this new device all the lines are empty. Is there a file to load, of which I do not know the existence or do I have to spend hours to program it? I have 4 of them…Thanks Claudio
What’s wrong with the default settings ?
Good morning holvoetn, today and tomorrow I’m out for work. Sunday I’ll connect an ax3 and take some screenshots of the pages
No screenshots please !
Export of config.
And a clear description of what your problem is and what you want to achieve.
Good morning, I left the programming inserted in the product (7.14.2). If I then delete the programming, the device is as if it were virgin, it does not even load the few lines present in the default configuration
I entered the IP of the device (192.168.0.4), renamed the ports in LAN 1 – WAN, LAN 2, LAN 3, LAN 4, LAN 5, 2.4 GHZ, 5 GHZ. It does not recognize the automatic acquisition of the internet, so I put it in static (192.168.0.4), as instead in the ACx series it did correctly, even if I always prefer to put it in static.
The LAN 1 – WAN port is not loaded in bridge. I had to add it, otherwise I cannot remotely power the product via cable.
If I check the UPNP box it kicks me out of Winbox and loses the assigned address, it resets to 0.0.0.0 and disables port 1. You have to go back to inserting the address 192.168.0.4 and re-enable port 1 in bridge. So you don’t have to enable the UPNP box
I probably don’t know the Home AP Dual mode, but I think that if UPNP shouldn’t be enabled then it shouldn’t be visible either
The Wireless section is completely or almost completely empty. You have to invent the programming. In case a technician already has experience with Mikrotik wireless routers, something can be invented, but if it’s the first time he opens the AX series, he’s definitely lost. As already written, I have already used many AC, AC2 series products and I have never encountered configuration problems. All set in WISP AP mode, I programmed the wireless pages in Mesh mode using WDS Static mesh. Here I don’t even find the WDS, now I will have to understand in addition to programming the 2 radios 2.4 and 5 GHZ, how to program the Mesh.
The device that you see in the screenshots has firmware 7.14.2. I tried to update another one (I have 4 to program), but it is the same, always with empty lines.
The attached programming is not that of the factory device, some small changes, but the wireless part is almost entirely empty. If necessary, I reset the device and send the programming again
What do I want to achieve?
I have to program and install inside a home of one of my customers, n. 4 identical products in a Mesh network and be able to use all 5 LAN ports. One product will perhaps need to be remotely powered, the others with a power supply. But the product must recognize this automatically. The important thing is that I can also use port 1 as I have always done in WISP AP mode with hAP ac products. Generally if I arrive with a cable, I connect it to port 1. If I have to restart in series I connect the next one to port 5. As I have always done with wall devices (hAP ac). I use the other 3 ports to connect products close to the device.
I would like to set the first one connected to the modem as a DHCP server, otherwise I let the modem manage the address assignment. Thanks, Claudio
backup.txt (7.77 KB)
First comments:
1- remove serial from export of config !
2- One of the least smart things one can do is rename interfaces. Really ! You’re making it harder for yourself and others to review config files.
Especially so if you are encountering issues and hunting for problem causes.
3- What packages are loaded on that AX3 ? It should be ROS main package AND wifi-qcom. From the export I am going to assume something is missing.
4- This sentence I do not understand
It does not recognize the automatic acquisition of the internet, so I put it in static (192.168.0.4), as instead in the ACx series it did correctly, even if I always prefer to put it in static.
5- Why use UPNP ? Why use UPNP external ??
6- and some more…
Config of wireless (AC2/3) and wifi (AX2/3) is completely different so yes, there is a learning curve. But it is not rocket-science either.
I strongly advise to make sure
a) the correct packages are loaded (ROS main and wifi-qcom)
b) upgrade to latest stable 7.16.1
c) start from DEFAULT config (= router with DHCP on ether1 and dual AP on the radios)
d) work your way up from there
This is a snippet from the posted file:
/interface wifi
# chains not supported
set [ find default-name=wifi1 ] channel.skip-dfs-channels=disabled \
configuration.antenna-gain=0 .chains=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 .country=Italy \
.dtim-period=1 .hide-ssid=no .manager=local .mode=ap .multicast-enhance=\
disabled .qos-classifier=priority .ssid=MAURO .tx-chains=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 \
.tx-power=0 disabled=no name="2,4 GHZ" security.authentication-types="" \
.ft=yes .ft-over-ds=yes
# chains not supported
set [ find default-name=wifi2 ] channel.skip-dfs-channels=10min-cac \
configuration.chains=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 .country=Italy .mode=ap .ssid=MAURO \
.tx-chains=0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 disabled=no name="5 GHZ" \
security.authentication-types="" .ft=yes .ft-over-ds=yes
the board parser shows two lines in red, they are errors.
You should run:
interface/wifi/radio/print detail
to check which chains are actually present on the radio(s):
https://help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/ROS/pages/224559120/WiFi
Very likely the correct value for chains (both .chains and .tx-chains) is 0,1
How was it set (or by what) to 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7?
Antenna gain in the ax3 should be 3 or 4 for the 2.4 GHz and 5 or 6 for the 5GHz, I believe, how come antenna gain for the 2.4 GHz radio is 0?
I spent the whole afternoon studying the programming of this new product.
Only after having managed to program 3 pieces, I saw the response messages in the forum
I added the antenna gain on the 2 bands to my programming (4 dB for the 2.4 and 6 dB for the 5).
TX power 16 dB for the 2.4 and 17 dB for the 5, I had already inserted them, trying and taking inspiration from an RB962UiGS-5HacT2HnT (hAP ac) that I had in the laboratory, already programmed and working.
That the wireless interface was different from the other models, I realized immediately.
In the ACx series I configured the “Wireless” interface quite intuitively
Here now I find “WiFi”, which I did not know
I will calmly study the link to the WiFi page, sent
- Attached are the backup files of the configuration of the 3 programmed devices, from which I removed the serial
- I have always renamed the interfaces, especially the radio ones, to configure a mesh network more intuitively. I am certainly wrong, but in my way of working, it makes my work easier. It is the first time I write to the forum, I have never needed it, I have always managed to configure the devices, at least for what I only needed to do.
- On all devices in the System / Packages section I find the routers 7.16.1 file and the wifi-qcom 7.16.1 file
- Perhaps with a screenshot it was better to understand what I meant. I configured the internet port in static 192.168.0.4, because it did not automatically acquire the address. It works…I don’t touch anything else
- Why use UPNP? Because in the ACx series I have always activated it without any problem. On this device, after numerous tests I understood that it resets the IP, so I leave it deactivated.
backup 192.168.0.4.txt (8.33 KB)
backup 192.168.0.5.txt (8.44 KB)
backup 192.168.0.6.txt (9.13 KB)
Instead these are the backup files of the fourth device. One is the backup with the factory settings at the first start (192.168.88.1), the other with the update to the latest version and a minimum of programming in the LAN part (192.168.0.7). I have not touched the WiFi part
I only have to configure the Mesh network, but I have not understood where to start.
In the AC series, I added the WDS modules, created the mesh network in each device and added the WDS ports of the other devices. In this I have not found anything similar. Do you have useful information or a link to study and try? Thanks Claudio
backup 192.168.0.7.txt (6.21 KB)
backup 192.168.88.1.txt (6.38 KB)
Can you provide a simple drawing (can be on paper) about your understanding of mesh network and what it should look like in total ?
And why the need for a mesh network ?
Good morning, here I am… I attach a photo of an ugly drawing made with a pen.
But the scheme is extremely simple, as I have already made many over the years, in private homes.
Modem, followed by an 8-16-24 port switch and wired network in every room of the house.
In this specific case I have to connect n. 4 C53UiG+5HPaxD2HPaxD (hAP ax³) via cable.
Each of them is connected to one or more audio-video products (TV, Apple TV, media plaer, SKy box, etc…), in addition to acting as a wireless repeater
The initial problem was that having never used this product, I found myself lost with the Wifi interface (RouterOS 7) completely empty, rather than the Wireless interface (RouterOS 6), which I already knew perfectly, used over the years with ACx series products. Initially I thought it was a defect in the product or my incorrect loading of the firmware. But all 4 could not be defective. And as previously written, only with a single HomeAP dual setting mode.
Thanks to your help, to the hours spent trying and trying again, to the posts in the forum, I managed to set up the wireless interface and the device. Currently they are all on my bench in the laboratory working perfectly, both wirelessly (one at a time turned on) and on all LAN ports.
Now the final task is to create a MESH network, as I already did previously with WDS RouterOS 6, but here I can’t find WDS. I found info on CAP, but by connecting the internal, round antennas to the device. I don’t need internal or external antennas. I have to configure the 4 devices and in case of coverage expansion, of the house, other devices to be added later, with the same characteristics. I had read a post in the forum, of which I lost the link where it said that there was nothing to do. Since the devices were connected via cable to the modem/switch, they were already automatically set. So why does the MESH or CAP menu exist?
If necessary or indispensable, I will move the post or make a new post only related to the creation of the MESH AX3 network
Thanks Claudio
First things first … ROS is so powerful because you can almost do anything with it.
And here is the drawback, because you can almost do anything with it, a lot of people get lost.
Mesh is there from older legacy wireless HW. It’s not applicable anymore to AX HW.
Cap is there from older HW with legacy wireless. On AX line everything is found under the Wifi menu tree.
So what you need to do is configure that AX with the same SSID/Security settings as the other APs.
But it will not be “seamless roaming” if that is what you’re after.
For that you should go with capsman and all AX APs. Then it works perfectly.
If not (using “standalone APs” so to speak), roaming will happen but with some hickups during AP transfer when client decides it’s time to move over (because roaming is a client decision, not an AP decision).