Cablelabs has standardized a SDN system for use by ISPs in the US ( and the world ) for Cable based systems. This is going to be implemented with a firmware update on MSO CPE gateway gear. This will make the use of a 3rd party router unusable unless it incorporates the new standards. This was announced in Januaray and has the backing of Intel/Comcast to name a few. Its already being deployed in tests on the COmcast network. So its a ready to go system.
Its going to be advertized like crazy to consumers starting late 2019 and full roll out is expected in 2020 along with 10G Full Duplex over cable along with the gateays doing WiFi6.
I will desperately need Miktoik to have this protocol up and running quickly. I attended a webinar yesterday and they are seeking 3rd party vendors to contact them as they have a opensource implementation available.
Im not fully sure I understand all of it as its quite complex. Its very advanced SDN that works on Open Flow Switch and also has something to do with EZ Connect.
Im not going to be able to deploy Mikrotik routers starting in 2020 unless they have this. All the major ISPs in the US are on board on this new standard.
Its the biggest change in client networking maybe ever..
Gotta link for any other information. Right now the only credible source is one company/site???
Where are the adoptees??
I would suspect that the name of the game would be transparency and the word that will be avoided is disruption.
In other words technology that is going to cost people and force them to change will not be adopted rapidly.
So regardless of what Cablecos will do, if they are not careful will simply drive them to Telephone Fiber solutions.
If you are talking within the home, bottom dollar is that the technolgy will naturally merge with existing units first and then
slowly morph… (I did note that micronets is open source !! )
Hmmm… I watched this video and what comes to my eyes is “security manager will configure customers’ micornets to be safe/secure etc…” or sth like that …
Who the … is Alice … opssss … security manager?
My main concern is that Mikrotik support the protocols. YES, its a evil and bad idea, but… Its coming anyway.. At CES 10G with all this micronet stuff was EVERYWHERE. There is a PUSH for this for homes like ive never seen before.
It allows ISP to do scary things. Like charge you per device on wifi. Or control bandwidth per device. It allows them to divide and then sell things like “automation networking, health networking, etc”. So.. It gives a ISP device specific controls.
This will spread like wildfire as it will make a ISP a TON of money.
In the US the vast number of people dont have choices. DSL is so slow its unusable. Fiber does not, and will not, exist for the vast majority, so its DOCSIS based cable or 5G wireless. 5G wireless has all sorts of issues like terrible latency and rank jitter. SO. Its really a monopoly, DOCSIS cable. AND THEY KNOW IT.. So here comes 10G..
ANY DOCSIS 3.1 gateway deployed can be firmware updated to do all this. No new hardware needed. Says so in the webinar above.. They already have it standardized and its working now. At CES they announced internal trials to start with Comcast this year.
Its a torjan horse. It will be sold as a security upgrade for the IoT and the way of the future, when in reality, it will end networking at home as we know it.
BUT… Thats not my reason to post.. As its inevitable, I need Mikrotik to start working with Cablelabs and get on board. I REFUSE to use a cable co gateway router. I drop CCR1036’s into homes now, and a CableCo gateway running a Intel Puma 7 would be a horrible downgrade in performance and security. So im not focusing on the monopoly aspects and the unethical aspects, I just need to get Mikrotik aware of it and they its gonna start getting deployed late this year or first part of next year in homes.
This is the future of networking. SDN, and this standard, will change the connected home forever.
Cablelabs is working currently with partners like Cisco and HP ( Aruba ). Mikrotik needs to be a Cablelabs partner on micronet. As its opensource, I would think it should be pretty easy to incorporate. The contact information is in the webinar.
I don’t think here in Brazil - or in any standard poor country in the world - this technology would prevail from start.
USA providers have tons of money, some experts and has time to implement those crazy all-in-one vulnerable protocols.
Even in Brazil. Its a firmware update and works on existing gear. Even on pre DOCSIS 3.1 according to the webinar. It allows a ISP a new buis model with the ability to charge for each device and service. It also provides really advanced security. All at little cost to the ISP.
I completely agree tho, its going to take time for it to get everywhere. BUT it comes from the company that defined DOCSIS. Cablelabs. Your cable modem and the CMTS in use at the ISP is DOCSIS. So this same standards body will eventually get to every DOCSIS based system world wide as a firmware upgrade.
You might get better roadmap directly from MikroTik, where this feature goes completely out of a routing scope and enters an pay to play or such things - remember Windows and its force privacy contracts when you give too much power.
It’s not like IANA and ISO things are respected when their scope goes too brand either, so the DOCSIS standard can be well rejected outside USA without any kind of problem.
And in terms of security, well, I have a Python script here that can download the whole backup of any TP-Link until 2016 models - so what is the purpose of an central management and complex paywall, where anyone can access (after breach) directly after BGP hardware, when too many vulnerabilities still exist in primitive/obsolete and still used protocols.
This is not something well received by any security user.
Here we have a lot more options than only cable. We have far less cable ISPs than anything else, and people gets really angry with such things. I have FTTP, and FTTH is getting common too. No cable modem here, no cable modem there and a lot of people that like to torrent and game as if their lifes depended on it.
We would have a field day the time one ISP started this nonsense.
I am glad to see other networking pros opposed to this.
Its too late tho. Its coming to the US next year. It will come with a huge advertising campaign backed by all the major ISPs. In 2 years it will be in every home.
It DOES have some possible very good things it can do.
It can isolate things on a network and provide better mitigation.
It can contain really bad IoT devices that have terrible security.
It allows completely unskilled home users better security.
The above reasons are what will be in all the ads. This is how they will roll in the trojan horse. Unskilled home users will think its magical and will protect them. Which it most likely will protect them from themselves.
It can adapt with rules and device quartione across a entire ISP if a device is found to be a issue.
Of course a ISP could abuse the system and have it only allow specific devices on the network.
Goverments will love this system as it allows them to have fine grained control of what gets hooked to the network. They can restrict what each device does.
ISP will profit from this in many ways. This is really important right now as Cable ISPs are loosing subscribers in record numbers with people going to the internet for services.
Most of the ISP in the US are committed. Most of the ISPs in Eurpoe are committed. This will start to roll out in 2020. Its a firmware update to a Cable Co gateway. A customer cannot block a firmware update to a cable co owned gateway. So there will be no choice for most normal cable company clients who use a gateway supplied by the cable company.
I want the option to use a Broadcom based DCOSIS 3.1 modem and a Mikrotik router. I do not want to be forced to throw away a CCR and use a cable company supplied gateway. Maybe then I can manage the micronet “features”..
