RB5011

Hardware MikroTik hardware general
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Let’s talk about a successor of the RB4011(+WiFi)

  • The AL21400 chipset is powerful. You can actually keep it. Perhaps there’s a new hardware revision available with higher clock and/or less power.
  • passive cooling: keep it.
  • ports: I like the SFP+, but would it possible to add a RJ45 port with “Multi-Gig” 1/2.5/5 Gbit/s capabilities with support of 802.3at/802.3bt or passive PoE for powering it?
  • Wireless LAN: Well, Reinis is currently working on MU-MIMO support. If he adds Uplink MU-MIMO aswell we have the first step done for IEEE 802.11ax support.
  • antennas: 8x for 5 GHz, 4x for 2,4 GHz, as this makes sense with MU-MIMO
  • 802.11ax + Tri-Radio support: You can either use 1x 5GHz with all your 8 antennas or alternatively split 5 GHz in two parts so you can use lower frequencies with 4 antennas on 5 GHz block A and the other 4 antennas on 5 GHz block B.
  • OFDMA is great but needs time to implement. So support it in a future release
  • pricing: 349$
2

I take, Wrap one please.

3

i would buy one :wink:

4

make it more about proper implementation of existing features that needs to be fixed in hardware:

  • SFP+ slot that’s not picky and supports SFP/SFP+/passive DAC/GPON modules without any issues
  • Switch chip that supports at least 8 ports at 0.01/0.1/1/2.5/5Gbit/s with hardware VLAN filtering and other features you would expect from $300+ router
  • Extra miniPCI-E x1 slot for modems,LoRA,etc.
  • USB ports, CPU have quite a few of them, so let’s have some available to user
  • metal (alu) case, that spreads the heat from cpu and SFP+ cage. For $300+ I’d expect metal case with proper heat dissipation design, not some overheating cheap plastic box
  • 802.11ax would be nice, but based on current state of WAVE2/MU-MIMO, ax will be realistically fully working on Mikrotik somewhere around year 2021/2022, even if hardware is available today…
  • One could dream: all features actually working on a first day of sale
5

As a software developer I would rather prefer continuous delivery of new features. Let Mikrotik focus on rock-solid basic feature sets and enabling step by step more sophisticated features.

6

And please, bring back the variants with touch LCD displays (yes, I actually use the LCD).
I avoid upgrading all my 3011s just because there is nothing newer with LCD.

7

Extra miniPCI-E x1 slot for modems,LoRA,etc.

+1
this is tempting features, espeically with the new LTE6 mpic-e

8

+10,000
@r00t – – – – – – – – – AMEN – a true Dream Machine !!!

9

+6Ghz (Wifi 6e) support

10

Just no.

If you need powerful WiFi, get a proper AP and place it properly.
If you need powerful switch or router, get a proper switch or router.

If you don’t care but like fancy numbers and lot of antennas, get a Netgear or D-Link.

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+2
Make two case options, a proper rack-mount, and a nice desktop version.

12

this is tempting features, espeically with the new LTE6 mpic-e

I am looking for a RB4011s sick performance, but with a built in 4G/5G modem. This would be awesome to do a selfbuilt SD-wan solution with dynamic ipsec tunnels…
+1 for LTE /mini pci-e slot with simcard support!
Then I could build my own “sdwan” solution out of just one single high performance box.

13

I would add a secondary SFP+ and a switch chip to the specs already mentioned


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a new 64bit ARM with lower heat output would be my #1 requested feature, closely followed by a better switch chipset e.g. Marvell Linkstreet series (the Realtek’s suck)

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i dont need WiFi or many RJ45.
What i need is a powerfull router with min. 2x SFP+

let the router be a router and nothing more

16

Agreed. There is room between the RB4011iGS+RM and the CCR2004-1G-12S+2XS for a router with a small number of 10G interfaces. Something like a CCR version of the CRS305.

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I agree that something is missing between the RB4011 and CCR2004. The RB4011 is a bit more tilted against Home-usage. CCR2004 is a datacenter device.

Or, your could make two variants of the same device. One with most Ethernets and DC-jack, one with mostly SFPs and telecom-power.

Devices with everything built in tends to be not really good on anything.

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I’ve been thinking about the MT routing & switching lineup in general. IMHO, it’s due for a cleanup.
What I would do, were I MikroTik:

  1. Ditch the RB2011 line. Probably the RB3011 as well, although lowering the price to RB2011 levels is also an option.
  2. Build a RB4011v2 with USB port and better switch chips.
  3. Ditch the RB1100. For a Dude Edition people can use an USB stick in a RB4011v2
  4. Build a CCR2004-8G-4S+ for something like $400,=
  5. Ditch the CCR1009s, CCR1016s and CCR1036-12G
  6. Build a CCR2016 (which they probably are going to do, from the info we have)
  7. Ditch the rest of the TILE boxes. ARM64 is where it’s at.

Idem switching:

Lose the CRS1xx line & RB260s. Concentrate on the CRS3xx line and make a low end CRS305-5G or CRS308-7G-1C or something like that.

They need to focus and concentrate on ARM64 & PresteraDX. EOL the rest.

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Yes, the RB1100:s are strange, no SFP/Combo:s at all but -48V supply. And RB2011 is just old.

However, I can see understand why the RB4011 has such a dumb switch-chip. Is not supposed to be used as a switch, only as a port-expander. But then the device is somewhat unsuitable for SoHo-usage.

The CCR1009-7G-1C-1S+ is very versatile so I hope that remains in some form.

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Obviously Mikrotik is placing RB4011 in SoHo segment … variant with WiFi is listed under wireless for home and office and in such environment it’s customary to live with all-in-one device (some people try to use CRS line of devices as all-in-one and get bitten by their shitty routing performance). But then it seems MT doesn’t consider VLANs to be SoHo feature as the built-in switch chip is just fine as long as one doesn’t use VLANs.