Is there any news on support for this card? I have just upgraded to V2.8.23 and nothing.
Will this be included in a 2.8 release or will I have to wait for 2.9?
Thanks.
Unfortunately, Sangoma can’t give us an open source driver. There has been a lot of confusion regarding this and now as it seems we will not be able to add support for this card at all.
Maybe some of you have recommendations about some USB DSL cards that we could make work ?
Normis,
Thanks for your reply, though this is extreamly dissapointing. Can you explain why an open source driver is required? Is this because MT has to basically write their own driver for this card under RouterOS?
we can’t tune it under our OS, we don’t have access to anything.
I’m very disappointed too!
They are very good products, we are using them on our border box (5 adsl cards, linux and zebra with 3 bgp sessions). I would like to use mT istead…
well, as it seems there is nothing we can do about it
I take it this is true with most of their hardware then? I posted a few days back about the a101u E1/T1 card but didnt get any replies…true for this card too?
So why is there support for the Sangoma S5141, S5142, S5148, S5147, and S514/56 ? Or is this an error in the documentation as well?
I’m now counting the cost of this piece of documentation http://www.mikrotik.com/docs/ros/2.8/interface/sangoma.content and this post from John Tully http://www.mikrotik.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=805&highlight=sangoma
2 X RB PCI risers
2 X “big” cases instead of small
1 X level 3 to level 4 upgrade (to get synchronous package)
2 X S518 cards
About $800. I don’t mind saying I am very annoyed.
I can NOT speak for MikroTik or Sangoma, but,
I spoke with the Engineers at Sangoma today and here is the short story.
Source code is available for the T1 cards. (Sangoma wrote them so it can be released at their descression.) (I think it has been made available.)
I think that support for the NON DSL cards could be made available.
(Again I DO NOT SPEAK FOR MIKROTIK).
The issue of ADSL, is that the chip MFGs provide an engineering platform to the OEM MFGs (IE US-Robotics, Sangoma Etc.) this platform consists of electrical platforms, chip pin outs etc. (The internal Register / internal workings of the chips are usualy NOT provided) The MFG will also provide a compiled suite of drivers / APIs for the OEM to use. These drivers have only some of their funtionality exposed via API interfaces.
The expectation of the chip mfg. is that the OEM will tweek some of the drivers behavior via software “wrappers” and provide the end user with a product that appears as their own.
Sangoma is using a device originaly made by GlobalSpan. this company was sold to Conexant. The device now belongs to them as well as all of the driver technology.
Salgoma had to sign a VERY STRICT non disclosure to obtain the development platform. They DO NOT have the original source code.
They CAN NOT release the source code they have.
I guess what I am saying is dont blame Mikrotik for not having ADSL drivers yet.. Blame the chip MFGs for not providing the information needed to build the device support.
I too am bummed that ADSL is not yet available.. but I will strive to help find a device we can use…
csickles,
Thanks for your post. I had an email from Sangoma today saying just the same thing.
What I would like to point out is that I had no expectation of a PCI ADSL card that is supported by RouterOS (I emailed Mikrotik support about a year ago and was told that there was not) until I was told that there was one here http://www.mikrotik.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=805&highlight=sangoma . Based on this and supporting information in the Mikrotik RouterOS manual I spent money, some of which went to Mikrotik, which is now wasted. This has nothing to do with Sangoma. In my opinion it is entirely Mikrotik that is at fault and they have profited from their mistake.
Guy, we use a couple of the Sangoma cards in a linux box that bonds ADSL lines and acts as our gateway. Then we use Mikrotik routers behind that. Its cheap and it works well.
Is that something you have considered?
Trisc
Hi Trisc,
Yes, I’ve looked at Eddie Chapman’s bonding solution but as I currently have no need to bond ADSL services, I would be using a PC and an S518 as a modem, which is not very attractive from a cost perspective.
Thanks for the suggestion, anyway.
How about this:
http://www.mapleleaf-technologies.com/pulsar_adsl_faq.htm
Not having investigated any further, but this states that there would be a (mostly) open source driver for the ADSL chipsets…
Perhaps MikroTik can have a look into this.
I saw this yesterday and was going to forward it over to John but did not get to it..
Sangoma thinks they have something similar, but I have not had a chance to speak (email) the details over to MikroTik about it..
I sure hope this helps and we can all sigh a a sigh of releaf that this saga is over…
Thanks CMIT for the post !!
PS: I hope this method will work for the Sangoma board, as they seem realy willing to help out as best they can.
I Allways prefer to have more than one provider, but one at this point is beter than none and one that seems willing to help is even beter…
Craig
We will check on the link for the opensource driver.
John
Keep in mind that the driver that is avail. is a “Wrapper” arround the compiled “Native” driver provided by Conexant.
From what I have been told, this driver will compile as if the entire package was in open source. (the wrapper hides the compiled code).
I realise that some tweeking may not be possable, but base functions and a usefull interface is better than nothing.
Craig