Hi folks,
I know that if users connected to the same wireless card and having same subnet (for example 192.168.0.0) can’t be traffic shaped, or magled etc…
The only solution for this, that I know, is to give users different subnet addresses, so they will go through nat and then they could be traffic shaped etc…
I want to ask Mikrotik staff is it possible to mark traffic, and if not, can something be done in future releases of Mikrotik OS?
Thx and cheers…
Hi Djape,
What will happend if you say to all users which is connected to same wireless that MTK is default gateway… Just crossed my mind… Will that help or no?
Hm, nothing. They are connected to MT and using 192.168.0.x and gateway is 192.168.0.1 (MT) so all traffic stays inside the wlan and never goes through router actually. Even if you download in Local 2-3mbit/s torch will not record that traffic 
there will be no connection record in firewall connection tracking etc…
I am 99% sure that I can’t do anything about it, but again it’s better to ask.
I need this cause I am planning to put Local DC++ hub and there is problem with users connected to the same AP/wlan. They are not traffic shaped and they can download as mush as they like without bandwith limitations.
If there is anybody here that knows solution for this I am all ears 
Cheers folks…
P.S. Kako ide pos’o? Nadam se da je sve cool
Hm,
Just wonder, if you use DHCP and setup network mask for dhcp users 255.255.255.255.
Will that work ? I remember that was a answer to a question like your somwere …
THx for you reply, but I really want to avoid to use DHCP…
Then do not use dhcp … If you are using manual static IP , you can also set netmask to 255.255.255.255 ;-). To test , i just now set my linux workstation netmask to /32 . Now i can access other computers in same lan only via gateway …
Not possible in windows boxes…
I’m not sure, that we talk about the same, but hotspot service do it for you “out of the box”…
Have you tried?
kj
Well, I have 5 AP’s in one town, ~30 users on each. So, it would be a big problem to gor from user to user and change subnet mask. They don’t know anything about it. THX, if that is only option, maybe I’ll finish in few weeks
It’s the same with dhcp, i would be forced to visit every user to change the settings.
No hotspot either…
If there is something I can do directly form MT AP, I would be very happy.
Thx to ya all folks…
why cannot you just give everbody a 255.255.255.252 subnet , this will work in windows and just add this will give you atleast some control of you network . or you could just splite every 5 users by a 248 subnet.
doesnt at one point on the ap tx/rx passes thru on ap or another could you limit thruput from lets say
dont know that mt has this feature (our old Karlnet stuff) had a feature to deny cpe to cpe communication. this worked but sometimes had issues when there was a client wanting to communcate between the same ap.
side question??
you 192.0 network is split between 5 ap’s with 30 user each . so you have a 150 users running across you network . that is alot of multcast and udp traffic , does that eat up some of your bandwidth..
Randy
Randy,
I have 192.168.0.x on AP1
then 192.168.1.x on AP2 and so on, all routed with dedicated links using 172.16.x.x ipfw blocking 136-139 etc, no broadcasting.
I can say that my network is working superb with VOIP, Online gaming etc…
So, i don’t have performance issue.
I just want to know is it possible to shape users on the same AP using simple 255.255.255.0?
Actually, I’m now 100% it can’t be done cause everybody here gave me answers that I allready know.
I think that this thread is going out of its subject…
Thx to ya all for help
I repeat - there is: hotspot
Ok, i have 30 business users with public ip, vpn etc. I am not sure that I can change to hostpot that easy…
Thx again, I give up, cause I don’t wanna mess my network configuration because of DC++ hub.
Cheers…
Well, when I lost all hope
http://forum.mikrotik.com/t/shaping-users-on-the-same-radio/2264/1
Cheers everybody 