It is always a good practice to refresh the page to avoid these kind of errors…
Help, I can consult in this forum, I only get a reply and when I reply I get
I was about to update a CSS610-8P. When I go to update it doesn’t show the 2.18 firmware.
Did something change or get taken down?
https://cdn.mikrotik.com/swoslite/css610pi/swos-css610pi-2.18.bin
Gives me a 503 error
EDIT
Went back to the Switch and Hit Upgrade and it found the upgrade and installed it.
For some reason Chrome won’t load the page now… but I need to look into that some more.
I can confirm the syntax error in the Hosts tab after upgrade to 2.18. Fresh Netpower Lite 7R device (default config) upgraded from factory 2.13 firmware. Tried two different browsers (Firefox and Supermium), I’ve never seen this error in 2.17 or older. Refreshing the page doesn’t change anything, and actually Supermium shows the error when freshly started accessing the upgraded device (it was upgraded using Firefox) for the first time.
EDIT: Downgraded to 2.17 - https://cdn.mikrotik.com/swoslite/css610/swos-css610-2.17.bin - link edited from 2.18 (fortunately it works, as I haven’t seen a “download archive” web page for SwOS/Lite, only for RouterOS). Hosts table displayed just fine, no more syntax errors in both browsers.
I upgraded from 2.17 to 2.18 and I receive the error on the Hosts page: ERROR: SyntaxError: missing ) in parenthetical
I have the CSS610-8P and CSS610-8G models.
Also… I have ICMP ping set up in netwatch to the CSS610-8P.
Every once in a while it will miss more than 2 of the 5 pings. I get an error note on the router as that’s where netwatch is running, which is directly connected to the switch.
But since CSS has no logs… I can’t track that.
I have 4 CSS610-8P out there at this point. They all do this.
Are the missing pings new with 2.18, and fixed by downgrade to 2.17? (warning: can’t downgrade lower than 2.17 without losing config because of changed config file format - sadly still not hashing the login password, so let’s hope for another incompatible change soon).
Over a month has passed and still no fix to that 2.18 syntax error bug? Makes hosts table useless. I’m running 2.17 and waiting for a fix.
A few months have passed - any news about a new bugfix release of SwOS Lite?
I’m still running 2.17 everywhere because of the syntax errors in the hosts table on 2.18.
Has the SwOS Lite development been outsourced, or has the last employee working on it already left?
Put the source on github already
Most of the value is in the hardware anyway, few companies make outdoor reverse-PoE switches.
Some new features would be nice but I’m losing hope if even a simple bugfix takes so long.
One that would have saved me a lot of trouble more than once - PoE watchdog (power-cycle the powered device if the switch can’t get DHCP for too long, with configurable timeout - like 15 minutes or so, to avoid rebooting during OS upgrades).
It’s quite a challenge to ask a few customers to power-cycle their PoE adapters exactly at the same time (so there is a moment when all are off - only then will the switch reboot, because of redundancy - even though not the switch itself was hung, but the powered Cube radio).
#[SUP-161444] reported 2024-08-06 - still no response
Your device is a dumb power consuming nothing without SwOS. So don’t talk BS. And Mikrotik won’t open source SwOS anyways. It wouldn’t help you either way, as bugs are not fixed by just the action of publishing the source code.
PS:
Reply in your support ticket directly. Ask for acknowledgement at least. Publishing SUP numbers on the community forum has no effect.
Without SwOS it would probably be an unmanaged reverse-PoE switch (assuming the switch chip has some sane power-up defaults), limited (no VLANs etc.) but still somewhat useful. Before the netpower lite 7R there were chinese reverse-PoE switch boards but I coulnd’t find them nicely packaged in an outdoor case which is what MT did and I appreciate it, so I don’t have to roll my own ugly outdoor boxes anymore. If source was published with change history, it would be possible to find the specific commit that broke the Hosts table and revert just that, while keeping other changes that fix bugs or add new features. I’m also pretty sure the community would help with more bug fixes and new features. Hey, no password hashing in 2024 - even if using the old Unix V7 crypt() it would be better than nothing. I wouldn’t be asking for the source if it was properly maintained, but it doesn’t seem to be. New release is made that introduces an obvious easily reproducible bug (which shouldn’t have passed the QA if there was any), and no fix in a few months. All I got from the report to support@ was the auto-ack with the SUP number, but no follow-up from any live person - not even the usual “we are working on it, but can’t give any ETA”.
Any news in support ticket ?
Still no news, running SwOS lite 2.17 on all my netpower lite 7r switches for now as it works for me, my theory (just a guess, pure speculation) is that SwOS Lite development is outsourced and MT has to pay for each new release, or have difficulty to find a contractor who wants to work on this code (perhaps it’s so hairy that anyone resigns after shipping just one release), that could explain the “release late, release rarely” development philosophy.
Prove me wrong and just fix the damn Host table syntax errors already, it’s an obvious bug easily reproducible in default configuration.
Update:
We have managed to reproduce the issue locally in our labs and look forward to fixing it on upcoming SwOS lite versions, unfortunately, I cannot provide a release date now.
Fingers crossed…
Still it would be very welcome to see a refresh of these switches - the switch chip is good, just add a better CPU and memory so the switch can be managed with RouterOS and have all CRS3xx-like features for like $10 extra BOM cost.
I was just about to buy a couple of CSS610-8G-2S+IN (plus SFP+ modules) and came here to see what this “Lite” version of SwitchOS is all about. I already wondered how well it’s maintained, given that there are only 2-3 products running it. Unfortunately, my concern was justified - more than eight months and no fix yet? I really love my Mikrotik gear but this is apparently a failed strategy. I can’t buy (current) products that are effectively abandoned software-wise. As the previous post said, drop SwitchOS Lite and bump the (very nice) hardware a little instead.
Please Mikrotik, I know you’re better than this!
I had the switch just stop passing traffic for 5 minutes.
It suddenly started working again.
I messaged Mikrotik about it… But can’t send logs, as there are none.
A month later I got a message that they had reproduced the lock up. I was sent a firmware that addresses the lock up. But not the hosts table. I installed it this week and am “waiting”.
Any updates on this @Springs? We have several of these switches in production for 60Ghz P2P applications. We have our concerns and have now seen the grass is greener on the other side… thank you.,.
The firmware they sent me appears to have addressed the lock up.
Edit: No it doesn’t its just longer between lock ups.
A FW version which was given in november 2024 or earlier and still not released ?
Now that’s odd …
It doesn’t address that token thing on hosts table.