SXTsq5ax not showing channels below 5500

Hi,

I just got a new SXTsq5ax and tried it to connect as a client.

Quick Set only shows “Home AP”, nothing else.

Scan does not show my known APs.

Configuring manually also doe not cut it.
Tried 7.19.1 and 7.20beta, no win.
Several resets and reinstalls.

Is it me not getting new WIFI or is this box broken?

Thanks for help and hints

Lothar

QuickSet is pretty incomplete in ROS v7 with regards to configuration profiles. So unfortunately, you’re on your own here.

Being on my own is fine.

What utterly confuses me is that I do not see me HAPac based home network when scanning.
I expected to have the SXTsq5ax pretty much work out of the box as wireless client (ac with wpa2-psk). I do not event get this up and running.

Check which frequencies are used by hAP ac and compare it to the list of frequenices allowed on SXT for your particular country setting. Not every device supports the same set of frequencies and not in every country.

Just checked on my AX device (wAP ax) - controlled by capsman but never the less - and frequency-scan does produce some output … even expected one (showing channels used by my other CAPs). One of other CAPs is ac (Audience) and wAP ax does see/report it.
It takes quite a few seconds to show anything though.

This is what I get, so no channel below 5500. That is also in line with the scan and frequency scan result.
My local AP is set to Switzerland ans sends on 5180.
I can not connect to it also using the SSID

Radio settings: (Latvia set for testing, same for Switzerland and Germany)

/interface/wifi/radio/print detail                                                        
Flags: L - local 
 0 L radio-mac=F4:1E:57:EC:2A:E9 tx-chains=0,1 rx-chains=0,1 
     bands=5ghz-a:20mhz,5ghz-n:20mhz,20/40mhz,5ghz-ac:20mhz,20/40mhz,20/40/80mhz,20/40/80/160mhz,20/40/80+80mhz,5ghz-ax:20mhz,20/40mhz,20/40/80mhz,
      20/40/80/160mhz,20/40/80+80mhz 
     ciphers=tkip,ccmp,gcmp,ccmp-256,gcmp-256,cmac,gmac,cmac-256,gmac-256 min-antenna-gain=16 countries=all 
     5g-channels=5180,5200,5220,5240,5260,5280,5300,5320,5500,5520,5540,5560,5580,5600,5620,5640,5660,5680,5700,5720,5745,5765,5785,5805,5825 
     max-vlans=128 max-interfaces=8 max-station-interfaces=3 max-peers=128 hw-type="QCN6122" 
     hw-caps=sniffer,qos-classifier-dscp,spectral,channel-switch interface=wifi1 current-country=Latvia 
     current-channels=5500/a/D,5500/n/D,5500/n/Ce/D,5500/ac/D,5500/ac/Ce/D,5500/ac/Ceee/D,5500/ax/D,5500/ax/Ce/D,5500/ax/Ceee/D,5520/a/D,5520/n/D,
                 5520/n/eC/D,5520/ac/D,5520/ac/eC/D,5520/ac/eCee/D,5520/ax/D,5520/ax/eC/D,5520/ax/eCee/D,5540/a/D,5540/n/D,5540/n/Ce/D,5540/ac/D,
                 5540/ac/Ce/D,5540/ac/eeCe/D,5540/ax/D,5540/ax/Ce/D,5540/ax/eeCe/D,5560/a/D,5560/n/D,5560/n/eC/D,5560/ac/D,5560/ac/eC/D,
                 5560/ac/eeeC/D,5560/ax/D,5560/ax/eC/D,5560/ax/eeeC/D,5580/a/D,5580/n/D,5580/n/Ce/D,5580/ac/D,5580/ac/Ce/D,5580/ac/Ceee/D,
                 5580/ax/D,5580/ax/Ce/D,5580/ax/Ceee/D,5600/a/D,5600/n/D,5600/n/eC/D,5600/ac/D,5600/ac/eC/D,5600/ac/eCee/D,5600/ax/D,5600/ax/eC/D,
                 5600/ax/eCee/D,5620/a/D,5620/n/D,5620/n/Ce/D,5620/ac/D,5620/ac/Ce/D,5620/ac/eeCe/D,5620/ax/D,5620/ax/Ce/D,5620/ax/eeCe/D,5640/a/D,
                 5640/n/D,5640/n/eC/D,5640/ac/D,5640/ac/eC/D,5640/ac/eeeC/D,5640/ax/D,5640/ax/eC/D,5640/ax/eeeC/D,5660/a/D,5660/n/D,5660/n/Ce/D,
                 5660/ac/D,5660/ac/Ce/D,5660/ac/Ceee/D,5660/ax/D,5660/ax/Ce/D,5660/ax/Ceee/D,5680/a/D,5680/n/D,5680/n/eC/D,5680/ac/D,5680/ac/eC/D,
                 5680/ac/eCee/D,5680/ax/D,5680/ax/eC/D,5680/ax/eCee/D,5700/a/D,5700/n/D,5700/n/Ce/D,5700/ac/D,5700/ac/Ce/D,5700/ac/eeCe/D,
                 5700/ax/D,5700/ax/Ce/D,5700/ax/eeCe/D,5720/a/D,5720/n/D,5720/n/eC/D,5720/ac/D,5720/ac/eC/D,5720/ac/eeeC/D,5720/ax/D,5720/ax/eC/D,
                 5720/ax/eeeC/D,5745/a,5745/n,5745/n/Ce,5745/ac,5745/ac/Ce,5745/ac/Ceee,5745/ax,5745/ax/Ce,5745/ax/Ceee,5765/a,5765/n,5765/n/eC,
                 5765/ac,5765/ac/eC,5765/ac/eCee,5765/ax,5765/ax/eC,5765/ax/eCee,5785/a,5785/n,5785/n/Ce,5785/ac,5785/ac/Ce,5785/ac/eeCe,5785/ax,
                 5785/ax/Ce,5785/ax/eeCe,5805/a,5805/n,5805/n/eC,5805/ac,5805/ac/eC,5805/ac/eeeC,5805/ax,5805/ax/eC,5805/ax/eeeC,5825/a,5825/n,
                 5825/n/Ce,5825/ac,5825/ac/Ce,5825/ax,5825/ax/Ce,5845/a,5845/n,5845/n/eC,5845/ac,5845/ac/eC,5845/ax,5845/ax/eC,5865/a,5865/n,
                 5865/ac,5865/ax,5660/ac/Ceee+5775/D,5680/ac/eCee+5775/D,5700/ac/eeCe+5775/D,5720/ac/eeeC+5775/D,5745/ac/Ceee+5690/D,
                 5765/ac/eCee+5690/D,5785/ac/eeCe+5690/D,5805/ac/eeeC+5690/D,5660/ax/Ceee+5775/D,5680/ax/eCee+5775/D,5700/ax/eeCe+5775/D,
                 5720/ax/eeeC+5775/D,5745/ax/Ceee+5690/D,5765/ax/eCee+5690/D,5785/ax/eeCe+5690/D,5805/ax/eeeC+5690/D,5500/ac/Ceeeeeee/D,
                 5500/ax/Ceeeeeee/D,5520/ac/eCeeeeee/D,5520/ax/eCeeeeee/D,5540/ac/eeCeeeee/D,5540/ax/eeCeeeee/D,5560/ac/eeeCeeee/D,
                 5560/ax/eeeCeeee/D,5580/ac/eeeeCeee/D,5580/ax/eeeeCeee/D,5600/ac/eeeeeCee/D,5600/ax/eeeeeCee/D,5620/ac/eeeeeeCe/D,
                 5620/ax/eeeeeeCe/D,5640/ac/eeeeeeeC/D,5640/ax/eeeeeeeC/D 
     current-gopclasses=121,122,123,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,135 current-max-reg-power=30

ok with setting to USA it works (scan & connect)
even if I set to Germany Indoor it does not work, even though 5180 channel is allowed in Europe

Do I miss something or is this a bug in 7.19.1ff ?

SXTsq5ax is declared as “outdoor CPE” … which in MT parlance might mean that it can only use frequencies, marked for outdoor or any use (as opposed to indoor-only use). So do check, what

/interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country=<your country> number=0

shows. It might show that lower part of 5GHz band is not supported. Output from my wAP ax (using one of EU countries) is like this:

  ranges: 2402-2482/20dBm/40MHz            
          5170-5250/23dBm/160MHz/indoor    
          5250-5330/23dBm/160MHz/indoor/dfs
          5490-5730/30dBm/160MHz/dfs       
          5735-5875/14dBm/80MHz

So clearly if device was outdoor (and one would want to operate it according to country regulations), it would/should not work with anything below 5490MHz.

I’m not sure if you can affect the frequency selection as explained above. With legacy wireless driver there was installation=indoor/outdoor/any which did affect frequencies used. I’m not sure if there’s anything similar in new wifi driver. It could be it’s hard-coded it into device itself.

[edit] Executing same reg-info command, but selecting country=“United States” shows many more frequencies (and higher allowed EIRPs) … and none is indoor only. So I guess that’s your problem. And beware, setting country to US on your SXT will violate your local laws, so “friendly” local RF police might pay you a visit if anything in your neighbourhood goes wrong.

[edit] At the same time, allowed frequency range in 2.4GHz band is a tad narrower for US … as expected (in EU we can use channels 12 and 13).

[admin@MikroTik] > /interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country=Germany  number=0
  ranges: 2402-2482/20dBm/40MHz     
          5490-5730/30dBm/160MHz/dfs
          5735-5875/14dBm/80MHz     

[admin@MikroTik] > /interface/wifi/radio/reg-info country="United States"  number=0  
  ranges: 2402-2472/30dBm/6gain/40MHz     
          5170-5250/30dBm/6gain/160MHz    
          5250-5330/24dBm/6gain/160MHz/dfs
          5490-5730/24dBm/6gain/160MHz/dfs
          5735-5835/30dBm/6gain/80MHz

thanks, so at least I got a clew where to look at.

Nevertheless I agree with the outdoor device. However, using a client connecting to indoor only channels should be fine, as the AP has to set the frequency.

Stil confused, that I do not get a CPE Quick Set choice. But that litte NAT & dhcp I can handle.

The “indoor” per regulations is about trandmitting on certsin frequencies outdoors … without having building walls as signal attenuators. And wireless station does transmit at same frequency as AP and at same EIRP levels. Can even transmit larger share of time than AP depending on share between bot directions of traffic. So an outdoor wifi device should not use those “indoor only” frequencies regardless the mode of operation (AP vs. station).

So this is what regulations say. Equipment vrndors are obliged to make debices do that they work according to those regulations. But as with most software-driven gadgets, it’s often possible to re-configure wifi devices in a way they don’t conform to local regulations any more. Whether you will go this way or not is entirely up to you and if you decide not to conform to regulations then you’ll have to live with potential consequences. Whatever they might be, e.g. non-conformant SXTsq5ax might fry your favourite spider and drown your better half’s favourite gold fish.