the problem of ping l2tp client from the computer that received IP from Windows Server (dhcp on windows server 2012 )

I have a windows server 2012 and dhcp server that gives ip to the network
for example it gave 192.168.2.80 to a computer

on mikrotik I set up a l2tl server and defined a pool that the ip is 192.168.2.238

when it connects vpn does not have ping this ip 192.168.2.80

it only has the ping when I write a nat of the masquerade type

I don’t want to write nat masquerade for this ip 192.168.2.238

is there a way that these two IP pings each other

Enable proxy-arp on the LAN interface (or parent bridge if one is being used)

Thank you, I have a bridge and when I use proxy-arp there is an interference in the nat I wrote, I have attached the photos of the nat, see, for example, port 443 has an interference
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