Flip that around; swap the proper nouns.
Just as RouterOS users vary considerably in skill level, so do Cisco users.
If anything I was making fun of Cisco
Have you not noticed that people become personally attached to corporate identities? Every sportsball rivalry ever? Ford vs Chevy? Windows vs Mac? EMACS vs vi?
Attacking someone’s favorite technology is ineffective advocacy. At best, it’s in-group signalling. “Hur hur hur, we only use Linux here, l00zur. Micro$oft are the sux0rz.” The Linux movement worked out the folly of that tactic decades past. I think that’s a large part of the reason it’s succeeded in so many ways: we educated those dragging down the tone where possible and jettisoned the rest.
Mind, advocacy is fine if done properly. I’ve banged on Windows once or twice here, but only in showing that a given task is easier on other platforms. Mainly this is command line networking stuff involved in client-side diagnostics, where I can show a material improvement resulting from using something else, if only for the duration of the debugging session.
Contrast this thread’s topic, where the best possible case is that RouterOS comes off just as good as Cisco IOS, presumably for less money. That’s not a whole lot to crow about. It’s useful, but it’s not like we’re showing off a unique feature that’d make a Cisco guy jealous. Besides, you have to count the cost of reeducation. Spending a week in classes to save $1000 on a router makes sense only if you’re making $200 a day or less, and then only if the class was free and you came out of it as facile with the new tech as with the old.
Here’s the thing about making fun of huge corporations: millions of people make billions of dollars using and supporting their products. That work paid for people’s houses, cars, and schooling. It’s put their kids through university, and it’s paid for their kids’ braces. Do you really think it’s wise to attack that? You don’t see how someone might feel personally attacked by extension? You’re all but accusing them of making unwise choices, in the face of tremendous economic evidence to the contrary.
With only one certification MTUNA, I have mastered (cough cough) the MT devices…
How much time have you invested in achieving your current state of enlightenment?
Do you believe no one should post until they’ve put the equivalent amount of work in?
maybe I should have held your hand and done the work for you??
I’ve thrown that accusation myself, but not after a single exchange. Encouraging people to work things out on their own is wise. Brushing off leeches who’ve shown they want only to be spoon-fed is sanity-saving. Accusing someone of being lazy after you’ve insulted the supplier that may well be responsible for a large part of their livelihood is most unwise.
Oh, and lest you think I’m some Cisco supporter, I’ve only ever interacted with their equipment second-hand. I use MikroTik gear because if it’s a choice between them and Cisco, I don’t get to play, because I’d never pay their premium. That isn’t the same thing as saying I don’t respect what they’ve achieved, or that I’m ignorant of the extent to which they’re still responsible for driving the industry.
Here’s a fun pair of data points for you. Number of Internet RFCs written by people affiliated with…
- Cisco: over 200, the search engine’s limit
- MikroTik? “No documents match your query.”
Don’cha think that’s worth a little respect?
