Trying to create wireless network for a motel

Trying to create wireless network coverage for a motel.

What I have;

1.) Mikrotik 433UAH (2 wireless cards)
2.) Mikrotik 411AR (2 wireless cards)

How it will be placed
The 433 is going to be placed inside the establishment w/ a Lan/RJ45 uplink to the internet,
while the 411 is going to be mounted on the Pole/Sign outside on the parking area. The 411 is not going to be able to have a Lan connetion to the Internet.

What I want [hope] it to do
1.) Have the 411 bridged to the 433 [As that would be the only way to get the internet]
2.) Have just one SSID



Okay so that is what I’m trying to do. I am locked into only the hardware that has allready been purchased.
Is it possible to do what I’m talking about?
I was thinking maybe leave both as the same SSID, so that only one name shows up, but not sure the interference that will cause. This build was sold to the customer as olny one access point visible from windows wireless networks point of view. So ANY help I will be greatly thankful for.

Sure it is possible, create a wireless bridge using the VPLS method on the wiki, I suggest using 5ghz for the bridge. Then, create the same SSIDs on the other wireless cards. If you don’t know the MikroTik platform very well, I suggest reading and playing around with the setup, taking a course, or hiring a consultant to help you learn the platform.

I’m locked into only what I have right now.
What I was hoping for was someway to make as I said just one ssid, but also have the main unit handle all the authorizations, which I found you can do through the Manager package.

still working on trying to get them to talk to each other and allow the 411 to see the 433.

could you give me some idea on the setup instructions.

I agree. What you want to achieve is quite straightforward for someone familiar with Mikrotik, a bit more difficult if you’re new.

Yes it should be strightforward, yes there are many people here that could help and those are the ones I’m asking for help.

Unfortunatlly though thanks two the last two post, this thread is most likely going to die. It happens all the times on forums, you get a couple people posting “ask a expert” with no real advice given and then everyone just drops out like the thread is the plauge.

I’m interested in using this system, but getting a bad experince on my first go round with it.

Anyone that could even give some samples to point me in the right direction, I have had at different points everything working except the brdige, and with out the bridge I can not use a centerlized authentication.

From now on though if you have nothing to constructive to contribute please fell free to exercise your right not to post in this thread thank you.

I posted here earlier, but saw your request was not what I offered. I use hotspots in my remote aps, but I do know of a setup that partially does what you want. The network was never capable of roaming tho. If the client was logged in, and switched aps, they were no longer logged in. :confused:

As I remember, this is how it is set up:

In the core router, the two wlan interfaces (ap and backhaul) are bridged and the ip/subnet, dhcp server and hotspot is assigned to the bridge. Also a WDS bridge is set on that bridge.

In the remote router, the two wlan interfaces are bridged and a WDS bridge set on it. The ip/subnet (assigned to the bridge) of the remote router is excluded from the dhcp server ip pool.

Hope some of that helps. I can provide some limited help if nobody else responds.

ADD: You should be able to test the core router setup by setting both radios to 2.4ghz-b/g on separate frequencies and ssids. You should be able to get an ip and login from either ap. Then connect the remote ap to the backhaul radio. Remember to set the core router wireless access-list to allow the remote ap mac, and then set the wireless “default-authentication=no” on the core router backhaul radio.

After that, the rest is this, using the backhaul radios and the remote ap:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Transparently_Bridge_two_Networks

You are asking questions that have already been answered, in fact they have been answered so many times, they have WIKI articles. If you aren’t willing to look for the answers, why expect other people to be willing to look them up for you? Using a simple Google search of “MikroTik wiki wireless bridge vpls” (all of which were words in my first post) I received the following URL. Which has 90% of what you want to do.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Transparently_Bridge_two_Networks_using_MPLS

That is the answer you are looking for. If you want some insights, keep reading, otherwise, goo dluck.

You are trying to sell something to someone. Before doing so, you should learn about the product you are trying to sell, or be willing to pay someone to set it up for you. That is the way business works. If someone sold me a product they knew nothing about, and weren’t willing to put in the time, or the money to get even the basics down, I would be rather nervous to do business with that person.

What you want to do is rather basic, I even gave you something to look for on the WIKI. If you aren’t willing to put the effort forth of learning the basics of the MikroTik, perhaps you should be selling something else. The RouterOS is a great platform, and I recommend it to a lot of people, but you have to put the effort into getting to know it to make use of it, or at the very least be willing to dive through the WIKI to look up the answers that people have already laid out. Otherwise your support model is based on requesting volunteer help on a forum, which isn’t much of a support model. Ask your self this, what happens when something fails and you don’t know how to fix it? You are going to learn the platform or end up paying someone to do the work for you.

The point we seem to be stuck at is the bridging.
We are wanting to have the two APs both with the same SSID so it looks like there is just one.
With the two same-named SSID aps it would allow the stronger guy to win out.

Okay so two aps, but have one ap the onw with the Eth access to the net run a radius and have a Centerilized auth go through him. To get AP#2 to handoff auth to the Box running AP#1 we have to use a Wireless bridge.


Not going to argue have tried everything and there is almost a hundred man hours in the project already. Stop with snide remarks, there is nothgin new said here that I do not already know(refering to lack of knowleagde use wiki) have tried every example and sugesstion so far. By this point my anger with this project is through the roof. the lack of documention real documentation and more then just see spot run examples on the wiki. Sorry none of us have been gettting much sleep and our spouses are getting pissed att he hours spent on this project, yes RouterOS is amazing no lie, just needs to could with a huge disclaimer and liability waiver for divorces

I think I am confused. The core router only has backhaul radios? No aps? All aps are out on the pole, correct? If so, did you set up the core router with the bridge on the radios? Can you connect and login through both? The core router has two backhaul radios, correct? Or just one?

The rest of you have said what you have to say. If you have nothing constructive to add, please refrain from posting on this thread. Remember what it was like to be new at this? Thanks! :smiley:

Can you get them both plugged into Ethernet and accessible from the internet? If you PM me access information I would be willing to try and set it up for you.