Using VLANs without managed switch?

Hello,
is possible to use multiple VLANs without managed switch? Have 3 vlans at home. For example, basic LAN devices has no vlan. Want to set VLAN 111 to TV device.

My connection is: routerboard → tplink switch (unmanaged) - port 1 TV, port 2 computer.
So I want to set VLAN 111 TV only.

Is it possible?

If only this switch does not remove vlan tags the answer is: yes.

The easy way … do test VLAN, connect switch, check results.

What is your definition of a vlan? Because it seems your definition is different than IEEE 802.1Q.

My 5 cents:

Most “consumer grade” networked devices don’t handle 802.1Q VLANs, so it is necessary to use VLAN capable switch to handle required functions.

Based on your description the answer would thus be NO.

I tried to setup vlan 111 to bridge. All ports are in bridge. Connected my laptop to the unmanaged switch, still getting wrong IP address (not from subnet of VLAN)

So you did the check and you know the answer which is: NO :frowning:

Which MikroTik router do you have? You can probably connect your TV to a different port on the router, but then you will need a dedicated cable from the router to the TV. And you will need to either remove the port connected to the TV from the bridge, or for a bit more flexibility, you can configure the bridge in vlan filtering mode and then create access ports for vlans. But unless you want to have multiple bridge ports connected to the same vlan, removing a port from the bridge and using it as a routed interface is by far the most straight forward way.

That is because your TV is not vlan-aware, so it is ignoring vlan 111 tagged frames. If the TV is getting an IP from what you referred to as “the basic LAN”, then it is using standard (untagged) ethernet frames.

Here some vlan background info: Virtual Local Area Networks (VLANs)

Get a small managed switch and replace the other one.
Heck, even Mikrotik has those :laughing:
(a simple Hex, Hex Lite or even RB260 may already be enough for your needs)

using RB4011 but it’s at the end of our apartment

Assuming you have a wired connection to your TV and only a single ethernet cable already running from the RB4011 to the room where the TV is, and if you want to have access to multiple subnets from different devices in the TV room, and have each subnet work correctly with dhcp, then you will need a vlan aware switch in the room with the TV. If you are in the United States, you can currently get an 8 port “smart” switch for under $30, and that is probably better than running a second ethernet cable. There are currently 5 port smart switches “on sale” for around $21 from Amazon (one is $20), but if you don’t have Amazon prime, it would be cheaper to buy an 8 port so you can get free shipping. Almost all switches use similar ethernet switch chips, but the way you configure them is different. Personally I never buy 5 port switches, because that only “expands” your total port count by 3 (because you use a port on each end to connect the switches together); an 8 port switch expands your port count by 6 for much less than twice the cost. If you are sure you will never need more than 4 ports in the TV room, a 5 port switch may be good for you. I also would only consider a Gb switch (not a 10/100 Mb, but I don’t think many smart 10/100 switches are currently made, usually someone interested in vlans will also want 1Gb).

Here’s a consumer smart switch configuration “rosetta stone”. VLANs - Configuring Three Ethernet Switches (VLANs, Part 2)