vlan interface: attaching to physical vs bridge interface

Hi all,

I am new to RouterOS and try to get familiar with VLANs on Mikrotiks. I have some difficulties in understanding the difference between attaching a vlan interface to a phyical interface, than adding the vlan interface to a bridge and attaching the vlan interface to a bridge interface directly. What I mean is that I don’t understand the difference between:

/interface vlan add name=vlan10 interface=ether5 vlan-id=10
/interface bridge add name=br-vlan10
/interface bridge port add bridge=br-vlan10 interface=vlan10

and

/interface bridge add name=br-vlan10
/interface vlan add name=vlan10 interface=br-vlan10 vlan-id=10

Any updates? I am having the same problem when setting up my vans…