Where are Mikrotik & Router OSgoing long term?

I’m curious where people think MT are going long term.

They made a great decision to skip wifi6e and go straight to 7 this has helped them get to the leading edge again from the time it took to transition to OEM drivers. But I wonder where they are going long term.
They seem to be very slow to listen to their user community if they every do listen.
Looking at things I see they are finally working on ECMP for BGP which has been long asked for but then you look at things like VTI for IPSEC and they just ignore this which stops them being used with other vendors.
I’ve had alot of users drop MT from their edge due to IPSec vti not happening and now the other vendors are picking up the refresh of WiFi so for me it’s translating to Mikrotik out other vendor in. which is a shame.

I understand we can’t all get what we want as MT have limited resources but it seems crazy to me for their reply to something like VTI to be “This is not a priority for us” when so many users are asking for it.

I welcome your thoughts I’d love to hear from some of the MT team on why they don’t engage more with the community on the future developments and direction.

I’m not hating on MT or the platform still an avid user and hope to be so for a long time.

Not interested in another shit on MT thread, for a litany of items best described by the Rolling Stones.

“You cant always get what you want”, so quit whining. If you have an issue with your config, ready to help if able.

Thanks Anav helpful as always.

I'm not whinging I'm a long time user of MT and continue to but when I've people leaving the platform I think it's fair to ask why they didn't engage with the community.

I highlighted the great job they give getting wifi 7 and ecmp for bgp done.

No one forced you to reply I'm asking for genuine engagement. If they are looking more towards enterprise wifi and less routing cool. I'm trying to get an idea of where people think they are going in the an open conversation please don't try shouting it down because you think I'm shit talking MT

Thanks

There are plenty of threads already where these are discussed, just sayin so to ease your concerns, you are not alone and the topics have been raised and discussed ad nauseum.

Quite… it’s is perfectly reasonable for existing users to be interested and maybe concerned about the future roadmap for a product that you’ve investing your own precious time in. I came to Mikrotik relatively recently having been Netgear, Cisco and Unifi over most of my professional career. I loved the power/price ratio.

When you find something you appreciate, nah say, love - you’re disappointed when the ROW doesn’t seem to share your passion (this is common in many facets of life).

I started implement Mikrotik in SOHO environments which is where I’ve ended up before I finally retire. But I’ve got back to UniFi for one reason: the cloud controller and associated ease of use/configuration. I’ve fought the Mikrotik corner as much as I can but I can’t win/disagree with SOHO clients who don’t have their own IT department and often manage it themselves. With cost of living crisis, this only becomes more important.

The other area has been Wi-Fi stability.

I have no problem if SOHO isn’t really on Mikrotik’s business plan - it’s their bat and their ball. But it does make us sad when they loose out to another manufacturer.

Maybe because we're not getting any answers?

MT roadmap is frankly none of our business. Of course we would like to see it.
Suggest robalt and M, start your own company and run it how you like. :slight_smile:

I'd like to see the MT logo on the moon.

Anav,

It's a shame you feel the need to try and spoil a conversation rather than engage in. But you're not being forced to. So I please stop acting like your avatar and go engage constructively elsewhere

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That's a fair response I don't believe it's part of their usual use case but why not

VTI is not their usual use case either. I don't know why people keep bitching about it in shady forum posts instead of making proper feature requests with valid use cases and WHY they should at least think about it.

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Of course it's VERY much our business. We recommend Mikrotik equipment for use by our clients. Our reputation is linked to it. Any business that doesn't listen to its customers very quickly doesn't have any customers. Which is a shame because we want Mikrotik to thrive.

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VTI is an example of a feature that people want and MT are ignoring. It's commonly used and morning shady about it or people asking for it. Given it's in the Linux kernel it should be a simple thing for them.

As for their road map I agree its business confidential and respect that. But if they don't plan on implementing a feature users who have invested in the economy system ask for then it would be nice to know why.

We all invest in learning platforms and want to recommend the best for clients/users I can't recommend MT currently despite wanting to. I'd love to hear why they are ignoring their customers requests.

They wasted time putting a bit torrent client into the alpha of 7 who thought that was a good idea. I do t remember anyone asking for that but I'm very open to being wrong

In this topic https://forum.mikrotik.com/t/feature-requests/
There are exactly 3 mentions of VTI.
By you, none.
What ticket number does your request have?

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If it's such a none feature why is it most other vendors have it support it and it's used by close providers.

I had a request a long time ago and gave up.

Look how long it took for BGP ecmp something that was asked for over 10years but we finally got it.

You seem to be taking this as an attack on MT it's not I'm trying to have a conversation but I see this is the wrong place by the sound of things

What Znevna is saying, is stop trying to stuff a wet noodle up a straw. Make the request in official channels and move on or at least provide the business case analysis.

Complaining on the forum does not get anyone VTI.

  1. Visit https://help.mikrotik.com/servicedesk
  2. Use "Suggest a new feature"
  3. Describe why you need VTI (use case, problem to solve, etc.)
  4. Visit VTI topic, post something like "I just created a feature request at https://help.mikrotik.com/servicedesk. You can do this too! The more people request it, the more likely it will be implemented"

Everything else (bitching in topics, commenting in VTI topic, etc.) is useless.

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Like many who are looking for a standard feat of many other routers I've done that so long ago

But we've been side tracked.

The aim of the conversation is to see where users think MT is going. I used VTI and ECMP bgp as examples of where MT were slow to engage or not engage with the user community.

So if you'd like to share your thoughts I'd be interested to hear.

I don't expect VTI to ever happen on MT and gave up along time ago. I shared how it impacted my users who are just moving away from MT completely. I'm happy to sell and support other brands but I wanted to hear other people's view on where they think MT is going

As if you starting this topic was about anything else than VTI.
But, ok.
They don't have the big dev team that other big vendors have.
They do fix bugs, and even surprise us with new features once in a while.
They do have to fix bugs in those new features.
They do have to support the new announced hardware.
They do have to fix some bugs with recently released hardware (hAP AX S?).
And you also want them to engage with the community
They've put moderators for that last one.
Do you know how the old Feature Requests list looked like?
I for one am waiting the new announced hardware to reach distributors.
And I do hope that they stay in the game.

Start with your opinion on this? Maybe, donno.