Hi Folks,
I know can be rather old fashioned, and presumably the SMB feature was widely requested, so Mikrotik thought they would include it.
But i dont understand why anybody would want it on a router?
What am I missing?
Alex
Hi Folks,
I know can be rather old fashioned, and presumably the SMB feature was widely requested, so Mikrotik thought they would include it.
But i dont understand why anybody would want it on a router?
What am I missing?
Alex
NÄSTA built in for us that use then at home. But there are many other ways to use it.
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Kindis,
Thanks for the reply, I didnt really understand what you are getting at.
I come from the traditional position with network devices. For e.g. a server should be a server and a router should be a router.
As far as feature sets for a router go I would have thought that SNORTt / IDS / IPS would have come before SMB Server.
So, I have seen that it is widely asked for, I am just trying to see why people want that more than anythings else?
May be I dont see the point as we only use Mikrotik in business environment where SMB servers are already in place elsewhere.
Alex
+1.
Surely MT would be better off fixing problems that have been with us since ver 4.x that have not been addressed yet.
Or even better, why not spend those resources getting Dude ver 4 to stop leaking memory?
-1 I think it’s a useful feature in some special conditions (like hosting a smb server on top of a mast which is 70m high, with let’s say: btest for windows, putty or winscp in files shared).
With your logic same is for:
why having a firewall on a routing machine?
why having a QoS enforcer on a router?
why having a ppp concentrator, dhcp, radius, ntp, dns server on a router?
All of these are features and all of them come disabled by default. Nobody forces you to use them.
And if you use some of them, use it wisely.
And please don’t complain for new features unless they are or cause malfunctioning.
+2 ![]()
Agreed.
mmmigoro, kembiet, cbrown and everyone else who thinks a router should be dressed up like a pig at the county fair.
Take a router, let’s say a RB750 and load ROS 5.12 onto it.
Set up two computers and pass traffic through it.
Measure the speed.
Load ROS 3.30 onto it.
Run the same test.
What would you rather have, something that moves packets fast or something that does a lot of things, slowly?
Fu##ing t9. I meant NAS it can be used as a nas for home users!
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I like it. I mean not SMB specifically, it’s currently useless for me, but rather the general direction “it’s more than just a router”. MikroTik products are not only for ISPs with large networks, they are appealing also for home users, small one-office businesses, etc… And every group has a little different needs. I see no problem in making them all happy. Making it better for one group doesn’t necessarily mean making it worse for the other. If done properly, extra services like SMB take only few kilobytes of disk space and can’t otherwise influence the router if not enabled.
This is ignorance. Of course it will be slower if the router is doing a little bit of everything. If you need something more high performance you remove packages and disable things you don’t need. But it is nice to have the features in case they are needed. Let’s go ahead and stop all development of new ros features because they are useless for everyone. Hell lets all revert back to 3.30.
Honestly I don’t know what I would use SMB for but it is nice to know I can do something with it if the situation arises.
Maybe I should have suggested only installing the minimum required packages on each version. For example, Advanced Tools, Routerboard, System and Security. Anyone who installs the standard package really is wasting resources. How many people who would want to use SMB are running BGP or OSPF? And, how many people running BGP, advertising routes over the internet want the potential security loophole of SMB running on a router that’s literally facing the world?
Let’s rather urge MikroTik to fix the problems that have been rolling over from one version to another while they have been drawing our attention away from these things by providing features that are worthless for the majority of users.
MikroTik’s resources will be better utilised fixing matters that have been outstanding for some time.
For example, I can’t print certain fields onto user manager vouchers because even though they are documented as being there, they’re just not there.
Then there’s the fact that certain RB’s randomly send two copies of each email.
Then there’s Dude…
You cannot build anything that’s expected to last on weak foundations.
Okay. Now I agree with that 100%.
normis said that the router has routed. Why SMB? I have not noticed people who clamored for adding SMB to Mikrotik. Who demanded by SMB Mikrotik? Who decides what direction to go? I want answers. Lately very disappointed by Mikrotik.
dressed up like a pig at the county fair.
Is this the joke where two guys steal the prize pig at the county fair, dress it up in some woman’s clothes, and after the policemen/guards let them pass, one of the cops says to the other(s) “what is a nice xxx girl doing with a couple yyy guys like that?” or something similar? (e.g. “it’s nice to see a couple yyy lads taking their mother/sister to the fair on a fine day like this.”, “what do two nice yyy boys see in a xxx girl like that?”, …)
eben i agree to disagree.
Different people means different needs. So different network admins or different network locations require different hardware and features.
Again your logic is like “A car should roll from point A to point B. Nothing more!” Drop the air conditioner, drop the car stereo, what the heck drop the rooftop and the car-seats too because they’re too heavy and we need speed. Personally i prefer to ride comfy, with the A/C and stereo turned on. And if i need to get there really fast i would definitely use a much faster car.
First of all RB750 is not meant to be used as a fast core bridge/router. As stated on product page RB750 “will fit perfectly intoany SOHO environment” and “It’s probably the most affordable MPLS capable router on the market.” and it’s for “managing your wired home”.
Second of all there are a lot of differences between ROS3.3 and ROS4.17 and ROS5.12 and so on (kernel, drivers and a lot of others). But if ROS3.0 is so good, try and run a /tool profile to see which process hogs up the cpu in case it happens… But you can’t. And why is that? because there’s a feature called profile missing, that’s why.
I agree that ROS3.3 runs much faster than ROS5.x, but that does not concern me as i do not use ROS5.x on my BRAS (and yes i do use ROS3.3). Still i don’t think that the new SMB feature is to blame for that ![]()
Also we don’t need to urge Mikrotik to do anything. If they don’t solve the problems like they should then turn to CISCO, Linksys, Juniper, RedBack, Allied Telesis or go wild build your own platform on Linux (I personally dropped Slackware for ROS3.3).
Money is the answer. Stop buying their products and they would be forced to adapt and resolve the issues the are always rolling or go bankrupt. (There’s actually a recent example of an enterprise who refused to adapt and innovate see Kodak)
If Mikrotik doesn’t solve the issues people are complaining about, then they’re not meant to last. So let the nature take it’s course.
Anyway we are off-topic here.
We made the SMB feature for the home AP market, where we have some new products out. I personally love the ability to connect a USB flash and store some files for easy access.
We made the SMB feature for the home AP market, where we have some new products out. I personally love the ability to connect a USB flash and store some files for easy access.
Exactly! I use rb433 at home as the home router and internet gateway (and I love all the features it has) and I really appreciate introduction of SMB because now I can connect my usb drive to the network and use it as an attached storage on all computers - thats great because I don’t need any other dedicated device to host the network share for a simple tasks…
Thanks!
If the SMB can be a package on it’s own that can be completely uninstalled, fine… But IMHO, there’s already too much crap on MT that shouldn’t be there to begin with. I’ve been moaning about this for years (web-proxy for example - send enough requests through it and it will put RB devices to a crawl because of resource constraints).
I understand that there’s a nice-to-have requirement in the SOHO market place perhaps (although, a NAS is definitely a better option), but at the very least give the professionals that demand and require the performance, the option to NOT have every single router in the field operating as a NAS
EDIT: PS I have not yet had the opportunity to look at 5.12 myself. If it is a separate package, I apologize and retract the above statements.
it doesn’t use any resources, doesn’t take up any space, and is disabled by default.