Why is RB751U-2HnD produced with illegal characteristics?

It is very strange that Mikrotik decided to put 1W wireless interface in RB751U-2HnD making it illegal in most countries.

It is unlikely that we would be able to use it in our country except if it is imported illegally. That is pitty, as it is great and very useful device that could be widely used.

u can always limit tx power.

it is illegal to stab people with knives, should we stop selling knives?

Mikrotik is only illegally if you don’t configure it properly.

When you are setting your device, you must set frequency-mode=regulatory domain, select your country and specify your antenna gain.

As long time member you should know better…

The device will be set to European rules of EIRP.

The big benefit of the PAs is that you will be able to have the full legal power at the highest date rates, where most AP have to reduce power to meet 802.11 EVM requirement.

please don’t reduce it, especially those are going to be sent into my country





First, I have nothing agains 1W in this device regarding it has internall antenna. ACtually I would like to have it like it is.

But, we are talking about law here. Most of the countries have importing laws that do not allow importing goods that are illegal to be used. I am afraid I would not be able to get this device because no importer in my country would get permit to import it due it is illegal. Every good that is imported has to get certififcate, and such devices, as they have characteristis dhat are not allowed, cannot get certificate, thus cannot be legaly sold in this country.

I know perfectly well that I can set RB to behave legaly, but customs do not care about it. If it can be used illegaly, then importing it is a problem.

Yes, that includes long knives, high power lasers etc.. You cannot freely import such goods even into “highly openned” societies like USA.

That is good. I prefer having lower power device that I can actually buy and use, than high powered that I cannot get except by smuggling.

So your afraid because of the power… How about frequency of operation? You can set frequency-mode to super-channel. How will you solve this issue? (And this one is even worst because your damaging 3G or LTE…)

And for other brands that are legal, you can change the OS and have a little more power, more frequency, becoming illegal…

Just to clarify, almost all of the devices that i know when setting them your must choose the country of operation. This is to adjust the frequency and power. (Of course that you can choose a wrong country and be illegal)

If the devices needs to be custom built for each country, they would be too much expensive.
Example: ETSI EIRP 20dB, FCC EIRP 30dB

I went to my local rf authority a couple of years ago and they said to me: “The device needs to be compliant with local regulatory and rules.
The responsibility of illegal operation of a radio device is the owner of the equipment.”

I think that you should go to your local rf authority and clarify this.

And now about customs: How is this certificate process done? Does it go through your rf authority?

If Mikrotik ships the device with EU limits (20dB) by default, you should not have any problems at all, it will be compliant with your regulatory rules.

Kindly Regards,

Ues. Every good that is imported has to get certificate that it complies with related standards.

For radio equimpent there is bureau that issues permits for importing. Radio device canot be imported without proper permit. EIRP is highly questioned for that.

1W is ten times higher that what is allowed. That is an issue.

About which country are talking here?

Ok, lets not talk about weapons. Lets talk about day to day use goods.
Lets take a car.
Everywhere in the world you have speed limits.
Still most countries in the world allows you to import a car that has a potential to go faster.

Now we talk radio’s
Everywhere in the world you have power radiation (measured at antenna) limits.
Still most country in the world allows you to import a radio that has a potential to radiate beyond the limits.

In both instances, it is the user that has to take care you don’t go too fast or you don’t send too much energy.

Radio’s in this respect are now even better designed to do this than cars.
Most (wifi) radio’s have a setting that by adjusting it to the country helps you not to exceed national regulatory limits.
In cars it is not even that simple. In most countries it all falls back to the behaviour and use of the driver…

I hope it is now clear and we can end this rather senseless discussion. :smiley: