Wi‑Fi 7 / 802.11be

I read the thread, couldnt find one single mention of supout report let alone the 100s I expected to see.
Also some folks not reporting issues is weird and sounds like production quality more than anything else.

Maybe it’s time for cAP be…

https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/products/u7-pro

Only when I get my wifi7 smartphone which is what vendors should be aiming for in the home market.

The U7 Pro will have even more issues than its predecessor since on the 6 GHz band client devices’ maximum allowed EIRP will be lower than access points’ therefore APs need higher gain antenna for the 6 GHz band than for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz in order to maintain their RCPI advantage over mobile client devices.

Tx power asymmetry can not be “rectified” by antenna gain (because it works for both Tx and Rx), this kind of asymmetry can only be “rectified” by asymmetry of Rx sensitivity … which means that APs will need Rx higher sensitivity than stations. And the difference in Tx power between AP and station is only 6dB. This is way less than difference in Tx power between base station and terminal in mobile networks, in LTE difference is usually somewhere around 20dB (terminals are limited to 23dBm and base stations usually operate at around 40dBm to 46dBm, at least on low and medium frequency bands, i.e. lower than 2.5GHz).

Alas, higher Rx sensitivity means that prices of AP chipsets will go up considerably … perhaps by around 6dB as well.

Credit where it’s due.

Out of nowhere… The AC units did get an upgrade path to ACv2 at the end of 2023. No longer requiring legacy customers to trash the units to move on.

I rescind my earlier statement about “2014 wireless in 2023.”

We now have 2016 wireless in 2024!

Can you give us a hint here, we’ve been waiting for over 3 years at this point for 6ghz capable wifi gear from Mikrotik. Skip 6e at this point, missed the boat on that, lets get 7 so we can start buying your WiFi gear again. Ready to purchase man!

By any chance do you have a router with an M.2 slot inside that I can put a WiFi 7 Intel BE200 card in and update the wifi.npk on yet until you start packaging one with it built in?

Mikrotik never been good with wi-fi/wireless.
If you want something good and reliable you get Ubiquiti U6-LR for example as me
Example: Friend of mine got hAP ax³ and he’s not happy with it at least with Wi-Fi range and speeds.

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I was also not satisfied with Wi-Fi on cAP ac and hAP ac2, however, since the migration to wifi-qcom-ac drivers, the throughput and stability of the network have improved many times (even with 25-30 clients on one interface).

I have hAP ax2 at home for testing and I am getting this over Wi-Fi (one room): (it was download from Steam over WISPs 60 GHz connection on village).

The coverage is slightly better than with the Turris Omnia.

I bought hAP ax3 for my parents and for the past 10 months, no issues(there was one Wifi interface freezing issue at the beginning, which Mikrotik fixed). I also installed PiHole on it which my parents seem happy about(blocking ads).
The range is also quite good(~90-100m) but I tested it in a very low interference environment.

:backhand_index_pointing_right::backhand_index_pointing_right::backhand_index_pointing_right: since the migration to wifi-qcom-ac drivers, the throughput and stability of the network have improved many times :backhand_index_pointing_left::backhand_index_pointing_left::backhand_index_pointing_left:

Any updates coming?

I will be surprised if Mikrotik releases their be devices this year…

The bet is on.

Yea… It took them quite long to release WiFi6 devices. (Not saying that this was bad thing.)

Sat through Qualcomm led training today.

MLO is awesome in concept!!!

I’ve seen in Normis post since they are not using their in-house Wi-Fi driver anymore they can jump on the wifi7 band wagon with ease, I guess the demand will only be the limiting factor here time will tell of course

I think it would be nice to have some kind of roadmap, including Wi-Fi 7. With the proliferation of low-cost Intel BE cards for end-user devices on the market and equipment already available from major competitors - the EAP770 line, UniFi U7 Pro, with the U7 Pro retailing for $189 - it might make it more transparent for many people whether to wait for Mikrotik or buy what is already on the market.

Also, https://www.androidpolice.com/wifi-7-phones-list/

Agreed, some kind of announcement is long overdue.

You do realize Mikrotik was 8 years late getting wifi ACv2 out the door???