Are there any Wi-Max miniPCI adapters such as the (http://www.wavesat.com/products/mini-pci.html) for which support is available or planned?
This would be nice!
37.5mdps with 10mhz bandwidth.
It’s been asked for … no sign yet.
AFAIK for most hardware if there is good driver support in Linux 2.6, it could be included in RouterOS. No driver = less likely.
Also, that card is 3.5GHz only. So you’d need a license in most countries.
They have a 5.8 card too.
Hi again,
I didn’t see a 5.8GHz miniPCI on the website - the “5.8 GHz Reference Kit” is a split digital/analogue pair of PCI cards - did you get more information from them i.e. more than that on the website?
Personally, I think this is the “way to go” - supporting this and future WiMax cards for other bands - all the WiMAX systems on ther market are “closed systems” from large or startup vendors.
Regards
I would also like to add my “vote” 
to supporting wimax cards, both in unliscensed and liscensed spectrum. The combination of mikrotik and wimax cards, could be a real killer.
Bring on WiMAX 
wimax would be the coolest. definatly keep my buying from mikrotik in the future!
The wavesat product looks more like a developer release (i.e. a reference design) which means it’s not (I guess) a final product, but a pre-production release in order to do some testing. Anyway I am waiting for wimax on both licensed and unlicensed frequencies, hoping that Mikrotik will support this one together with IPv6
Thank you!
Wimax, i am thinking is the name for marketing,
wimax 802.16 need the same L.O.S, and use license bands 
only for very big WISP, who pay the regulatory ,etc the very big PSTN ,etc
now, i will buy wimax, when no need L.O.S in wimaxforum.org, you see, is the same modulation OFDM, only change the bands.
no way, for me.
who here make a NLOS with wimax ?? who test, i am thinking wimax is WIFI with other name.
Best Regards
probably you are right, WiMax is the last hyped product: I don’t know if it will have better/same performances than what we use today. But I don’t agree with the fact I need the WiMax standard (802.16) for many reasons (mainly commercial reasons) on both licensed and unlicensed frequencies…
Thank you
Although the basic modulation scheme is the same, OFDM, I think it uses many more sub-carriers than 802.11a etc and as such could well offer better NLOS performance. Time will tell of course!
We have tested some WiMAX gear from Airspan (ASMAX) operating in the 3.5GHz band with a single 8 or 10dB omni (don’t recall which it was). We had diversity disabled (attenuated) and the transmit power on the primary was 33dBm. We were getting about 1km NLOS in an urban environment (inside buildings), with throughput ranging from 4-10Mb. The NLOS performance did vary quite a bit depending on where we were. I know that there’s no way we could get these kinds of links with 2.4Ghz or 5GHz bands as we have tried at this same location (using CM9 cards, no amps) without much success.
It would be interesting to see Mikrotik support this new card and see how it does
mnmm now, the price of the product Airspan, compare vs 802.11x standars , is very expensive?
i live in Venezuela i am sure only the very big PSTN make regulatory , the normal Wisp, is very hard because the little wisp no have founds for pay license bands, ufffffffffffffffffffffff very expensive. ??
talk me about the price of airspan for the base station and for CPE.
thanks very much
The base station is priced somewhere around $20K (USD), the indoor CPE is $400-500 (it looks like an Apple Airport Base Station), and the outdoor CPE is somewhere around $600 (this looks a lot like their WIPLL stuff). Since I don’t work for Airspan and haven’t purchased any of their WiMAX products, these are not official prices, but estimated costs from what we have heard - your costs or quotes may vary.
Pricing of commercial WiMax products is quite high, and as you have said, will prevent all but the largest ISPs and telcos from getting into this space. This is why I think it would be very important for a company like Mikrotik to take interest early and get some developers working on supporting these new WiMax radios. They could make a killing on both hardware and software if they had a WiMax solution. It would also open the doors for many WISPs looking to get into this space.
Expensive???
How many 802.11 basestations would be required to make indoor penetration with a radius of 1 Km?? And what would that cost?
I’m not sure if I understand your question…how many WiMax base stations? As I said before, we had varied results within 1 km inside and behind buildings with a single base station. As with most wireless deployments, each location will be somewhat unique, so results could be much better or much worse from site to site depending on many factors.
good question, i have other question
what is new about security? in wimax, is more secure, or have the same problem in wifi example mac spoofing, ,etc
to make 100% (or as near as possible) indoor coverage you need less WiMax basestations than you need 802.11 basestations. At what range did you get full coverage with WiMax from Airspan? And what was the model of basestation you used?
And for Airspan beeing expensive, let say you need 10 basestations with WiMax to cover an area while you need 200 basestations with 802.11 to cover the same area. What would be most expensive?
802.16 is designed to use very predictable licensed spectrum where the WISP can predict with some certainty that their radio packets will reach the user.
TDMA without ARQ causes all kinds of problems with throughput, latency etc when used in a noisy enviroment. That is one of the key reasons WiMAX is initially deployed in licensed spectrum.
802.16 that will be suitable for a randomly noisy unlicensed environment will need ARQ and more flexibility with scheduling inside the MAC. That in turn will cause problems with QoS which removes one of the key benifits of WiMAX in the first place.
Read here for a first class discussion of the issues. It does come from a vendor, but regardless its by far the best analysis I’ve ever seen.
http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/2006-April/024928.html
George