^ read that part on usability, " Usability is the degree to which the design of a particular user interface takes into account the human psychology and physiology of the users, and makes the process of using the system effective, efficient and satisfying. "
Your lacking one of them right now
Have you never worked with support staff? If you are not careful enough they will turn you around and tell you that you don’t understand your own requirements. No offence.
coffeecoco, maybe you misunderstood me. That was a valid question, I was asking for your opinion. I did not understand your point, I was asking for a clarification. Please summarize your suggestions, and I will forward them to the people responsible.
I think the language barrier is sometimes getting in the way.
I have an old phone with a tiny screen (2.9" i think). I use Google Chrome and it works great. I don’t recommend a phone as your ONLY access to a router, but for simple tasks, it works fine
Define Great, its not better is it? or equal, what matters is that there are more than just you that use it, on a scale “great” to some of us is or not worth using<–
great means I can get all stuff done without issues, and without wishing for anything else.
Do you plan to configure your routers only from a phone? I though phone was only the backup plan, therefore webfig is good enough. If you have other plans for it, maybe your expectations are higher.
Today I’ve made WebFig test with Android phone (3.7" screen size).
It’s possible to manage router from phone without problems.
But as Normis wrote, treat your phone as a backup device.
Just my two cents…
This right here has limited functionality, but for what I would use it for on my phone it is good for viewing information. I would probably never use my phone to make changes to production routes because touch screen phones suck sometimes. My luck I would put in a drop rule and hit enter bam I would have to get on a computer anyway and l2 into the device from a neighbor mikrotik.
I have mikrotik in a rb493ah and I’m trying to use webfig on a mobile android v4.1.1 mt6577 processor 1.2ghz dual core, screen 5.5 "and GPU PowerVR sgx531t.
I realized that webfig has a slow interface and limited in comparison with the WinBox.
In dhcp lease option I have 752 items and webfig is very slow on mobile for any change in leases. I have tested webfig access to phone with Internet access 5Mbps or wi-fi lan in direct Rb493ah and slowness persists. However with a Core2Duo computer access is regular speed, but still slower than winbox commands.
Definitely the webfig is slow to be used in mobile phones androids, tested on some option, show many items listed as ppp secrets, neighbors list, dhcp leases upper 300 500 1000… items. Try change someone item on this scenaries.
WinBox for Android is a lot of expectation for us that we believe is a much more intuitive and fast tool than webfig today. Please make WinBox for android or create webfig interface less heavy for Androids hardwares.
Thank you
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my 2 cents:
Firstly, Thanks for having great products at low prices…
(scenario)
I have just climbed a 250 foot tower to align a large dish connected to a Routerboard. I used to carry a small netbook to run winbox so I could read dB, CCQ, Et AL and adjust antennas accordingly (which worked flawlessly). The netbook is now in about 6000 pieces strewn about the base of the tower because of a very strong unanticipated wind. I now use my smartphone with “webfig”. The problem is that the web interface will not store passwords and disconnects VERY frequently compared to winbox. So, I type in my username and password with numb fingers, navigate to the wireless-registration page, then to navigate to show the signal on the link… now get the wrench and start adjusting… lose connection, put away wrench, re-login username and password, navigate, get wrench, adjust, lose connection, wrench, password, navigate… over and over, very FRUSTRATING!!!
What I mean by “disconnect” is that the browser “kicks me back” to the login page with a message in red. Something about an “internal error”. Hence the need to login again.
Winbox almost never had this behaviour even when the laptop’s wireless connection wasn’t “stable”.
In closing, if you won’t “port” winbox to android, please fix webfig (especially remembering credentials and less disconnects on less than stable wireless connections)
Thanks again.
Please give us more details about the phone you use, the browser, the operating system version, and the router you are connecting to. I use webfig all the time, it can stay open for hours in the PC. Not sure about the phone. Maybe it has something to do with your phones power saving settings?
I can fully underwrite this.
Winbox sessions (or webfix) in windows machines are stable. In my android, or my windows phone the connections I make with webfix indeed disconnect all the time. I have no idea why because similiar session in W8 laptop stays alive. Very frustrating… up to a level I hate now to use my tablet to login a router.
Apart from that, winbox for windows is soo much nicer and more stable (apart from the ‘extra’ mac level access AND the neigbour tool!!) that I don’t understand the discussion on this tread as saying we don’t need winbox for android because we have webfix!
Winbox just has a better GUI in respect it is better visible in a screen under difficult circumstances (backlight, sunlight).
Winbox doesn’t need a browser, webfig does. What’s wrong with that? Well, if your portable device is wireless (or cable) connecting to routerboard but the dhcp-client is not getting a valid IP you have to wait minutes (IE, Firefox slightly better) before the browser understands he will not get an IP and lets you manage the browser further. Winbox just waits until the adapter is set to a default IP and inmediate you can access board with the mac lever access.
When the board is not arranging an IP to the client, or its own IP has an issue, or there is an IP conflict, webfix is just useless. So here we are, with the client, with my webfix on the mobile/tablet, and all I can tell the client I can’t access the routerboard and have to come back with a laptop with winbox later… what a performance! So I have to bring my laptop at all times, because usually when troubleshooting at the client, it might well be I can’t use the android to do the troubleshooting…
By default I have port 80 blocked for MT CPE’s to prevent client ‘sniffing around’ in the router. So I can set another port for access, but sometimes a router is a transparant bridge, sometimes it is routed. So sometimes similar port is used for routerboard access, which in other situation is the client’s wifi router’s adress or anything else. Browsers are very annoying when it comes to switching to another port for access to the same IP, special if something is wrong…
With winbox I don’t have all these problems. I can just always log in as long as the ethernet works…
So yes, a good winbox version for android (tablets) is definately a pro! (The earlier shown ‘winbox for andriod’ is nice, even the pro version, but not complete and not very handy. Before you know you closed the interface you are looking at and thrown yourself off line. Icons or information is not scalable and the info presented is not always the info I am looking for…)
I give 2 very fat ++ for a android winbox version that has same options as the windows winbox.
(In fact I am so frustrated about not being able to use my Samsung 10" tablet for troubleshouting in the field in a decent way I fell back to my old WinXP laptop and am now considering to buy myself a new W8 tablet/laptop crossover with touchscreen…
Only because for android there is not a good tool to work with ROS. That sucks… )
I use an HTC G2 with Gingerbread 2.3.4, default browser, I have “sleep mode” set to 30 minutes when using webfig, phone is set with static IP when working on tower. The routerboards in question are numerous; everything from RB433 ROS 3.30 to RB711GA-5HnD running ROS 5.24 (I don’t upgrade ROS unless I am having a problem or need functionality only offered by newer ROS).
I believe the disconnects to be a “time-out” issue; because I use this mostly in high-RF environments where the WiFi signal can go from 5 bars to 0 bars just by moving 3 feet, I think the “refresh” on the webfig is timing out. My netbook and laptop WiFi connection can drop and re-establish in a few seconds. My phone takes 10 to 20 seconds to completely re-establish a dropped WiFi connection.
I wouldn’t mind all this as much if the browser would (even temporarily) store the username and password. My large numb fingers on the tiny phone usually mistype the password at least a few times.
Again, your desktop browser (probably windows based on a PC with an ethernet or stable WiFi connection) is not really a suitable test-case. We are talking about android with it’s “stripped-down” browser.
I (hopefully) won’t be climbing soon, but I will try another browser or 2 next time I do climb.
In the mean time, if you could convince the team to add the option of “remembering” the login credentials that would be awesome!