Wireless AC and NStreme Speeds 75Mbit -55dBm

I would like to know where I can troubleshoot this issue. I cant comprehend why I have such as fast air rate, of 590000 kbps and only get a real 75 Mbit udp performance.
The link is 25 Km, NetMetal 5 on each end, 30 db antenna’s.
Perhaps it is my configuration of the wireless Bridge? the two end networks have thier own subnet, and the wireless hardware is on its own subnet. eg Lan 1 192.168.1.X, and the other is 192.168.17.x Wireless is 10.10.10.x
Ether 1 and WLAN are bridged on each NetMetal, and have IP assigned to the bridge. The ethernet is connected to another mikrotik device, which has an IP for the 10.10.10.x/24 on the ethernet interface that it connects to, the other ports of the Local Lan are bridged and have thier own IP on it eg, 192.168.1.1

Where am I going wrong? Or am I?

I have had this link up for a long time, but cannot pinpoint when it started to slow down. I used to be able to get 180 Mbit, and over 200Mbit at times.

Is my configuration messed up?
I am by no means schooled in networking, I know more than the basics, but im at a loss, why an 80 Mhz wide channel, 2 chain, with 90+ ccq in nstreme gets a real world throughput so significantly different than the P Throughput. At least from what I recall, this P Throughput was very closely attainable by the link
I have a funny feeling, data id being bounced back and forth or something that I I cannot see.
If I have to reconfigure the whole thing I will, I want to achieve the fastest possible speeds.
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I just tested this link by switching to 802.11N with 40mhz channel. Connected air rate is ~ 220000 kbps, but still only able to get the 75Mbit over the link.
So if the 802.11AC with Nstreme on 80 MHz channel gets the same speed as 802.11N on 40mhz channel. Something has got to be wrong.

Any ideas where to look, or to chnage the configuration?

1 - What are you testing bandwidth with? Most small mikrotik devices will reach max CPU before max bandwidth so you should use computers on both side to test.
2 - you mention that you have different subnets on both side of bridge. What are you using to route between wireless bridge and LAN1/LAN2? Are you sure it’s not the routers on each or one of the sides stopping you? (Check CPU usage on routeres while testing bandwidth).

I have tested with file transfers from a PC to PC and also with each end router ( Mikrotik Bandwidth test. the CPU gets to about 50% with either way of testing.
Yes, the routes are set up in the mikrotik s on each end, Ie route for lan 192.168.1.x route is 10.10.10.9 which one of the interfaces that connects to the AP on the roof, and all the wireless stuff has ip addresses in 10.10.10.x range. Just a simple route, nothing fancy.
I did find someone else had a post a while back with the similar issue, with link speed fast over just the link, BUT when it ended up going to the next device it slowed down, to ironically 70 mbit…

No I know I am probably not going to get 590 mbit over the wireless, but would be nice. But 75 is a far cry from the air data rate.

My speculation is that there is something going on with what I will call packet bounce. Keep in mind that I used to get at or near 200 mbit on this exact same link, with the exact same hardware when I explain my theory here…

Data gets sent from Side A over wireless, the TX rate is seen to increase on that device, the other end receives that packet, HOWEVER it gets bounced back to the other device, either becuase of bad config, or hardware issue (ROS) The TX and RX rates do not increase here on the far side, becuase any data that only goes through the wireless, never reaches the bridge, so the rates do not increase,. Data was sent back to the original side, again, traffic comes in, then out on wireless only, but becuase it never get to the “bridge” its not shown to increase the traffic rate, TX on the AP side still shows ~75 mbit. The AP sends that data back or “out” on the wireless and the other far client side then recives that packet, sends it to the bridge, the RX rate is shown to go up ~75mbit now.

Why I think this is happening, is becuase if you were to take the 75mbit X3 ( trips across the wireless) you would have ~225 mbit Which is close to where the link was before, and equates to the 3 trips across the wireless.

That’s just a theory, but I have only been upgrading the ROS and Router Board firmware quite often, so I do not know when it exactly happened.

ROS has had an issue in the past on other devices where configuration changes were persistent even after a full device reset,a nd a config restore, where the restore file actually created that same issue again, where as if you were to rebuild the config from scratch, the issue was not to be seen again. This was also experienced by me several years ago, and many people thought I was out to lunch, but then others started to report it.

I will put money on it that there is an issue here with this, and MANY people have experienced it, and they always get the same answers… the CPU on the device, wireless interference, etc. Which are all valid. What I have going on this link, is that it is the same exact hardware, in the same spot. I even asked one of the neighbors to chnage the thier frequency and that actually got me from -60db to -55–56 or so, and a higher signal strength, BUT still limited to the ~75mbit. Occasionally 80 mbit. I have checked for queue rules or anything else that may effect it in this way. The number is not pegged at 75mbit, but that is the most common on tests. I have seen it as low as 64mbit, during daytime when other wireless in the area is being used.

SO I am open to ideas on what to try. If it is my setup, I will change it. But I am at a loss for this one.

What is the expected life of a NetMetal 5? 921UAGS-5SHPacD

fasttrack enabled on routers?
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:IP/Fasttrack

Without it 75mbit isn’t terrible on that CPU.

Yes, I have tried with Fast Track enabled and disabled on all or none routers in variouse combinations as well. With reboots in between all of the times that I made the changes. Currently they are all set to fast track enabled.

Remove all ips from bridged tiks. Then ip firewall connection tracking set enabled no.
In bridge add only ports wlan0; eth0; rtsp set to off

Tried all of this, speeds did not improve. However, after the wireless reconnected, the traffic started to pass much quicker (In time ) than before. IE from time of wireless connect to data actually moving.

Im confused as to why this is like this. Such a good signal, but such a slow throughput.