will be released outdated.Sure, Linus Towards release Kernel 5 before ROS 7 has left Beta.....No way! If they do it, what will we make fun of?
SO it is Outdated before it is stable......
There is no need to replace the hardware if MT upgrade to the latest Linux kernel which supports Tile arch. 4.14.x IIRC. It has a lot of new networking feature, like SRv6. It would be nice if ROS v7 moved to that kernel version...Indeed. The CCR-line is a key product for many customers. It would be very welcomed with an refreshed version with similar number/type of interfaces.And hopefully some new ARM64-based hardware as CCR replacement.
There is no need to stop v6 development. It can continue as bugfix and relocate more development capacity to the future ROS versions if they wont want to stucked in v6 and v7alpha/insiderbeta.Alpha is exactly that - proof of concept (in a lot of ways)
What is the timeline?
if there is no cut-off date then it's just proof of concept for developers.
They continue to work on 6.x, but 7 being a new kernel and everything means they have to make sure all existing functionality from 6.x is implemented and working properly with the major kernel changes (along with taking advantages of possible new efficient interfaces in the new kernels) so once they believe they've got a good working prototype, it'll move to Beta for public to help test.
Unfortunately, if we wanted to force their hand on v7 timeline/release schedule, they'd all but have to stop development on 6.x and that doesnt necessarily mean v7 will be quick, could you deal with 6 months+ of no further 6.x updates?
Software release cycles at the level of RouterOS are very time consuming things to get right. I'd rather have a good v7 then a rushed one.
We look for x64 version v7 with multithreading to use with server hardwareDon't hope any BGP Multithreading, because it is useless (bgp is slow because of Tilera cores, and multithreading route injection in FIB is a mess), i just hope for better routing filters, i have sooooo many problems with the current implementation...
@krisjanisj: nice! I think you guys really missed the opportunity to stage the release of v7beta1 on 1st April.RouterOS 7 is here [removed link]! Finally!
Given the lack of clarity that the community has have for the last 10 years, don't expect anything in the short/mid term. Just do what you have to do to make your business running properly. ISV's and HW ODM/OEM's come and go. It's important that companies invest in products that have a clear line of direction, otherwise be ready to be nimble and adapt to whatever the market has that fulfill your needs.@normis
Any timeline you can announce for v7 I know there was meant to be an announcement at the recent MUM but unfortunately there was not.
I'm in the same boat as many others with bgp performance issues and really need a timeline that I can give to the CEO before I have to start looking at other vendors after using mikrotik for 15 years
That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
"checks date.....nope not April 1"All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
And I shall be your messiah!So there's still hope that the unicorn status v7 has will be changed to something not as mythical.
I suspect there is no too big jump if the leaked video is real and the allocated flash space is almost the same as on ROS6.That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?
That got me laughing like a mad man. Thanks, I needed it!But generally, people are hyped more than players of Diablo before release of new version. Many of them expect every trouble will be magically fixed.
Unlike Blizzard we tend to keep our RouterOS working on same platforms as ROSv6 does (and release mobile app for ease of configuration not migrate the whole darn thing to a cheap mobile game ripoff since "Who doesn't have phones nowadays...")....But generally, people are hyped more than players of Diablo before release of new version...
I think the hype for Diablo3 was grater than Diablo2. Don't get me wrong: I have all 3 (should have learned with D2, and never bought D3, but I digress), and hated what they did with D2.Well, I was actually referring to time before Diablo 2 .. I guess its too old for people to remember today...
The kernel version doesn't define its size... the recent kernels are big when precompiled becasue they do have more and more hardware and features integrated ; for such high perf/low latency application you go with custom build conf with only dependencies you need. There's no use having video, dvb, audio, tape drive, etc.I really hope they use v4 kernel, but MIkrotik is still selling devices with 16MB of flash (WHYYYYYYY you do this?!!!!)... so it's not looking good.
What's available today is not close to any proper customer engagement. Like you stated, I can go there, ask for a feature, and have millions of people go "+1" without changing anything. Not even a mere reflection of a decision from Mikrotik. Even if it's "Will not be implemented".@anthonws: MikroTik already has that... kind of. Description of this forum is "BETA Testing and Feature Suggestions for the next RouterOS release (ROS v7)", so you're welcome to post your ideas and people do so. Others comment on it to show their interest. Only the actual voting is missing. Oh and also MikroTik's interest, it seems. If there was voting, by now we'd have OpenVPN (*) on top with 10k votes and it would be sitting and waiting as it is now. So that's pointless.
(*) Actually, OpenVPN it not that important by itself. It's not THE killer feature and after such long time, anyone who needed it probably already found different ways how to satisfy their needs. It's more like a symbol now, even though it would still be nice to have.
Personally I'm a little bit skeptical about these "user voice" things. You have product used by millions and then decide what to implement based on hundereds or low thousands of votes. And you don't even know how many are from people who just came by and won't care a month after. Even from user perspective, nobody is going to browse through thousands of ideas to find good ones. You'll post yours, give few additional votes to some popular requests at the top that you also like and it will be most likely it. So how much these things can be trusted, that's a question.
Not neglecting those methods of customer feedback and closer engagement.They probably have other methods, feedback from distributors, people contacting support, MUM participants, ... so they probably know well what customers want. Being more open about their plans, and generally making customers feel closer to developement and heard, that's surely something they could improve.
Personally, I'm hoping for proper IKEv2/IPSEC or OpenVPN support so that I can connect to NordVPN.OK, please forgive my ignorance, but what are the main advantages for v7 over v6 that are expected to reach the final builds?
That's a serious question, not a troll attempt.
Two things:Christmas in July?Maybe Christmas giftAny news about date of release Ros v7?