What about 10 employees in the office? I know, now many printers with networking (I had at home printer with wifi), but many(!) offices buy cheap mfp, just look at market.Bad idea. -1 for sure.
Just use printer sharing from a desktop or hook the USB cable up to your laptop (you're going to be near the printer to pick up the printed pages that come out anyway). ROS and RB's have a hard enough time doing routing... Why complicate and/or drag down your router with print duties?
Bugs? Do you know about modular development, if will be bugs in print support it will affect only printing part not whole OS, I don't think RouterOs writed in one big file like big monstrous function. If not print server why not usb over ethernet? And if we talk about consumer feature, mikrotik should remove usb port, this is for stupid consumers. Don't know why so many negative about print feature, if you don't like ok, it's make router os more flexible for different sort of users, not only super network administrators.Print server would be similar wrong way. Another source of bugs. I do not want it.
If Mikrotik were made in Switzerland, all of these functions would be available plus a leather punch, saw, scissors, and an espresso maker. (Pack the coffee into port 7 and pour water into port 6. Coffee comes out of port 8 when you ping the router)- and let's not forget about adding Philips Hue integration so I can flash my bulbs every time I get a corrupt packet
- and please have it run XBMC so I can watch pirated m*vies via the serial port
- and since that's not enough, I want RouterOS to link up to my Apple Watch and send an e-mail to my mum each time I get home.
- and why-oh-why have you not integrated any garage door controllers into Web Proxy yet?
.. I could go on, but I won't.
- it would cost 200x moreIf Mikrotik were made in Switzerland....
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I think it is not true.Unlike Cisco, MikroTik does target home users.
Now we are talkingPrint server is the right way to go, the only question is which one it should be.
Have you ever seen or just heard about print server built in CISCO OS and routers ? Even these SOHO's cheap ones ? I'm not asking for Linksys branded as Cisco.
Even I didn't see any OS on my LinkSys modems. at least all of MT's product have fully ROS.Cisco targets home users but with Linksys products. They have no full featured CISCO OS installed.
If we compare CISCO OS to ROS then there is no place for print server.
+1 to movieSoon, this thread is going to look like one of the battle scenes from Braveheart.....
I would rather that they implement VDSL, DOCSIS, and GPON interfaces for routerboards.But what in the end?
I wanted to have such thing. but when looking at CPU load and etc ...
If MT has targeted home users, so at least they should think of having modem compatibility in their product. So then If I am Home user I could use such product which can connect my through Internet without having additional bridged modem.
Ok, so Cisco has separate home brand (well, had, they no longer own Linksys) and better/enterprise one, which does not have routers with print server (I didn't check, but I trust you on this one). And we want to compare RouterOS only to the latter why exactly? MikroTik devices are currently starting at lower prices than even any Linksys ever had, so it makes it fair candidate for comparison. Google says that at least one Linksys router does support print server functionality. Judging by the year that video is from, it's from Cisco days, before they got rid of Linksys. So yeah, even Cisco does (did) it.... If we compare CISCO OS to ROS then there is no place for print server.
If I have an F-16, I want more missiles and radars and engines and night vision and stuff - not cup holders, wine refrigerators, fold-out beds, and all-leather interiors.
If I want those things, I would prefer a corporate jet in stead of an F-16.
Yes, that was one of the worst ideas ever.On a side note, regarding Cisco (specifically Linksys), I'm not sure that following a company that can produce something as idiotic as router requiring internet access for administration / first time setup is necessarily such great idea. Because clearly, they too are capable of doing something stupid.
I'm for a print server IF it comes out AFTER something like Lua...
(And for those who might not realize: Lua is - rightfully - at pretty much the bottom of MikroTik's priorities, so...)
It depends... On bad roads, going to a hippy party, the first option could be better.Simple question: Which one do you prefer for transportation job ?
People, stop this print server issue. You will never get over the hypocrisy of ISP people. ... Experts on this forum know your needs better than yourself and decided you don't need printing support on your MT home router....As you don't need sharing of a hard drive connected to your router, for that matter....
You have forgot to mention fax support and scanner support as these home "printers" are mostly not only printers but multifunction devices ... ops ... what about handsets to support skype or VoiP phones or USB camera for monitoring or ... why to limit ourselves ... plug USB speaker and listen to the Mikrotik's brand new Spotify player or plug USB to VGA coverter to watch YouTube ... I do not think that ONE developer will be enoughI would say it is an opportunity to get a new developer into the team, and use him later on other features
You obviously have no clue what I was talking about... You do not care about the device on a USB over ethernet approach. You just have to transport USB traffic transparently. There is no development effort for a specific device class, just for the virtual USB adapter, the router side being actually almost implemented by that remote USB serial port part. So it could be a 1 man effort.You have forgot to mention fax support and scanner support as these home "printers" are mostly not only printers but multifunction devices ... ops ... what about handsets to support skype or VoiP phones or USB camera for monitoring or ... why to limit ourselves ... plug USB speaker and listen to the Mikrotik's brand new Spotify player or plug USB to VGA coverter to watch YouTube ... I do not think that ONE developer will be enough
Yes, it actually would. Throw in an expresso machine and and a refrigerator and it gets even better: Integrated Kitchen Appliance Unit. Even with remote control over internet. This could actually be viable and a good idea for a startup...Why no one have already combined oven with microwave device and dishwasher ? It could be a PERFECT spacesaver for small apartments ... what a bright idea, don't you think ?
I know what IoT is, and I specified the monitoring part. And you are right, you don't mix fire and water, SOHO with serious routing.Primo: IoT is not the same as mixing oven with dishwasher. Managing/monitoring devices using some kind of standarized protocol/communication method called with big marketing word an "IoT" is not mixing such different worlds as fire and water.
Most users want to share their existing printers in their home or office, they don't give a damn what's behind it as long as it does the job. This was exactly the main demand: printer support.Secundo: making USB shareable port for LAN users is not implementing printserver what is the main demand for this topic.
Why do you assume that routers have to be far away from the printer. Why do you think MT builds routers in neat plastic cases or with LCD screens on the top? Because they sit on an office table, not in a rack...Tertio: To use USB port to connect printer or any other device you need to have them close to each other so do you think that printers are located close to routers ?
As long as you don't give away money for new equipment that meets your expectations, please don't make assumptions. Cables are far away from passé because they are reliable and fast. And not everyone likes to throw out working equipment just because it is not in line with the newest IPhone generation trend.Quarto: nowadays for most home users network means WiFi connection and they connect via WiFi and devices (read printers) are expected to use WiFi not cables so USB is starting to be passé.
Just disable unwanted packages and ask Linus to remove some advanced networking funcionality from Linux.So please request the removal of advanced features from all low cost MT models. This is such a mixing.
OK but there are many cheap specialized solutions so why to pack it into router ? If we block the only one USB port with printer so we need the second one for disk to make NAS. NAS is so obvious for home use as printer support. What about the third one for backup LTE dongle ? The fourth we need for ... and so on, so on ....Most users want to share their existing printers in their home or office, they don't give a damn what's behind it as long as it does the job. This was exactly the main demand: printer support.
Do you thing that all use racks ? Do you think that rack in the apartment is "must have" ? Do you have one in your home nearby you desk or TV set ? That is why MKT does make plastic desktop versions. It is much easier to place plastic ones on the desk or in the box where all cables are concentrated (if you have such central place) or as AP over false ceiling than rack version. Small plastic box could also be installed in the rack. LCD is just a toy as we know that it eats so many CPU resources that is it better to switch it off.Why do you assume that routers have to be far away from the printer. Why do you think MT builds routers in neat plastic cases or with LCD screens on the top? Because they sit on an office table, not in a rack...
I do not make any assumptions. Maybe I do not want to pay more for MKT devices just because they need to pay developer for implementing print server funcionality instead of Bonjour protocol for iOS and MacOsX printing ?As long as you don't give away money for new equipment that meets your expectations, please don't make assumptions. Cables are far away from passé because they are reliable and fast. And not everyone likes to throw out working equipment just because it is not in line with the newest IPhone generation trend.
This is a completely ludicrous argument, you know why ... crowded wireless bands.Why do we still deploy ethernet and fiber optics? Because WiFi, BT, 3G, 4G and LTE are fantastic?
Do not be ridiculus and do use "hysterical" and "bluntly" arguments. They do not make any positive contribution to this thread.Anyway, the issue is not what's trendy or not, the issue is not to get hysterical on the fact that other persons may have other needs than yourself. These needs are bluntly dismissed by a bunch of people which think they know what others shall or shall not do.