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Payement system that User Manager should support

Paypal
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Google Checkout
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Authorise.net
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Something that is not in the list?
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Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:11 am

What kind of Payment systems do you prefer using? What kind of system should we support first as the most widely used one? Maybe there are others that we don't mention here?
 
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PayPal/Authorize are good, but how about creating an open system to allow integration with local banks?
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Quickbooks Merchant Services for Credit Cards.

http://www.quickbooksmerchantservice.com/

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Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:22 pm

i almost removed your post as spam ...
 
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I've used both authorize.net and paypal, and I would have to say authorize.net is easier to use for both the ISP and the customer. The easier it is to get through a hotspot, the more people will be inclined to use it.

#1 Authorize.net (very popular, easy, open, professional, widely supported)
#2 Paypal (very common, convenient, changes often, less professional, more mom and pop style)
#3 Worldpay (commonly supported in many applications and billing systems)

Many companies already use authorize.net because they have very competitive rates, an easy to integrate API, and it's compatible with many 3rd party ecommerce and billing programs, so the likelyhood of it being able to work with your existing billing system is a huge plus, many might find they only need one processor to handle an unlimited number of Hotspots including your main billing package.


Here's an example of how simple it is to setup Authorize.net (once you allow the API)

Merchant ID xxxxxxx
Merchant Password xxxxxxx
Merchant Transaction Key xxxxxxx
Payment Gateway https://secure.authorize.net/xxxx

You can also apply to become resellers (i.e. Mikrotik could be a reseller and help ISP's setup their own Merchant Account and Mikrotik would make a small amount of revenue from doing that while allowing the ISP to get great merchant service rates and a simple setup)

Will any of these be added into 2.9 or do we have to wait until 3.0?
 
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we have made the authorize.net payment system, please look at this topic
http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=60848

Now we will start to work on PayPal.
 
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Hi Uldis

Are we going to see PayPal integrated into User Manager at the MUM next week?
 
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Hi Uldis

Are we going to see PayPal integrated into User Manager at the MUM next week?
not yet :( It will be in the middle/end of the February. We started to work on the new GUI for Usermanager that's why all is going so slow.
 
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Mid-end Feb for Paypal :cry: Guess that will give me some more time to get our hotspots ready to roll out.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:51 am

come on! it's less than two weeks until february :)
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:59 am

Yeah, but we are like kids waiting for Christmas to come. :D
 
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:47 pm

well it is feb 5th any updates??? already bought a level 6 lieses and installing it in the server to implement this
 
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Its down to a week and we'll have Paypal integration. :D
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:58 pm

Canyou also provide som interface that can use custom payment service. Since UserManager is isolated form external databases, it would be good if it can use info from external source about payments or payment status for users.

That would allow developing (or using) third partu applcation for money acounting and let MT interact with it.
 
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:)
 
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according to firebat it should be here ... well, yesterday i saw a test of it, which means it's working. you will have to wait for the next routeros release probably.
 
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Thanks Normis. That's good news. I hope the new release comes out soon.... :D
 
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Can you add recharging accounts with prepaid vouchers?

Thanks. :D
 
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:08 am

Normis:

Which Router OS version will Paypal integration be in?
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:54 am

? :)
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:11 am

should be in beta 6 or 7
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:49 am

should be in beta 6 or 7
:shock: It won't be in 2.9.41 or .42?
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:52 am

all new features go into v3, all fixes go into 2.9 (we want to fix it until it's stabile, and then move on to v3). this is not exacly news
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:27 pm

OK. Well...you can't really run a production hotspot on Beta code. :?

Any idea when a non 3.0 Beta will be released that will support it?
 
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:48 pm

you are contradicting yourself, because you were asking for paypal. paypal is not tested yet, it will be it's first public test (beta). it doesn't matter in which ROS it is in, user manager will still be untested.

edit: I have good news for you ...
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Mana ... nts#PayPal
 
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Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:10 am

Thanks Normis. I meant Paypal beta is OK but not on top of a OS Beta. I see it says 2.9.41 availablity. :o Now, when will 2.9.41 appear :D
 
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paypal will be killer! any word on 2.9.41? tks
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currently it is already integrated into the 3.0beta6 Usermanger package. You can test it out.
For the documentation look on the wikipage:
http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/User_Mana ... nts#PayPal
 
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I have 3.0B6 loaded, and the UserManager customer is set as a Owner / subscriber.
I do not see the box for Authosise.net of PayPal.
The system shows "use https" next to authorise.net and as NO PayPal option.

I have installed a https Cert and enabled ssl.

Next ?

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did you used https when opening the usermanager?
Have you used the usermanger package that is specified on the website - redownload it.
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:38 am

can you turn off email sign up verfication for sign ups.. this is almost a deal killer for me, that new hotspot users will need to be able to access email to access the hotspot.


also can you customize the http://router_IP/user page? I only want my new users to see: buy credits, view credits, view payments.

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Re downloaded and installed User-manager package.
http://IP/userman = login page (No payment options)
https://IP/userman = Page cannot be displayed.
http://IP/user = Login page, No valid logins (None accepted)
https://IP/user = Page cannot be displayed.

Env = 3.0 B6
Platform = I386

What next?

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Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:32 pm

craig, I was getting all kinds of issues like this as well. Maybe a bug.

but what i did to fix it was weird. I had 10.10.x.x subnet on my Hotspot, and my local ethernet IP of the board i was testing it on wass 192.168.1.234.

Now when i acessed 192.168.1.234/sigup or /user or anything it worked fine and authenticated new accounts everything as stated.

so i had to go back to the hotspot and allow 192.168.1.234 as a walled garden and set the hotspot to 192.168.1.234.

maybe be a bug as this feature should have worked normally after set up from any wifi client.
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This issue comes from both sides of the router.
From Authed clients, it comes from both legs of the router.
From stations on the "far end" or gateway side of the router I get the same..

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Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:46 pm

OK...
I have no rhime or reason, but the PayPal "module" magicly apeared.

I am not sure if it was a package reload, a reboot etc...
But there the checkbox is...

This is via a non https connection.

I must now play with this more...

I will post as I get further with testing..

Great work MikroTik !!

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Fri Mar 09, 2007 11:55 am

Probably browser cached a lot of information, then few pages may load incorrectly.
It is recommended to clear browser cache or push F5, when new verison of User Manager installed.
 
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Re: User Manager Payment Systems

Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:05 am

Are there any plans to support paypal website payments pro?

https://www.paypal.com/IntegrationCente ... _home.html

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Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:13 am

Paypal I like it, when I use 2.9.44 user manage I use it pay to myself, it just testing if I can get paid.
Authorize.net I go verisign website try 14day free but I don't know how to setup,so not go thru.
google,don't care ,I have no time to try,may be later.
 
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Re: User Manager Payment Systems

Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:07 am

Someone once requested for the code to be made open, so that it will be possible to make use of your own local banking institution. Is there any progress on this?
 
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:23 pm

Giepie, currently there is not any plans for such feature.
 
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:06 am

As for me I will like to see a feature that will allow clients to recharge their accounts by purchasing vouchers at the roadside.
Also a payment option using the ATM card (Interswitch ATM Debit card, http://www.interswitchng.com)
 
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:29 am

2CheckOut is a well know payment gateway and used world wide .. Not like the PayPal or Authorize.net as they do not support all countries.
It supports 3rd party integration, so you just need to have a look on it and integrate it with user-manager.
Check this page for more info: http://www.2checkout.com/community/blog/tag/parameters/

I think that 2CheckOut is Authorize.net & PayPal reseller while it is the best solution to use for any country worldwide. So, you can use to process CreditCard and Paypal payments using the same account and it supports elecronic check and PayPal pay later service

Another idea is to add customized values, so we can add any payment gateway some billing systems can do (http://www.modernbill.com having many ideas could be shared with the user-maneger).

I've added a vote to the wiki's requested features for the 2CheckOut, I hope to find other interested people voting for it also.

Before I forget, the 2CheckOut website is: http://www.2checkout.com or http://www.2co.com

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Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:13 pm

It's possible to make usermanager compatible with VISA¿? Here in Spain people don't use paypal or autorize.net..

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Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:46 pm

We are consider different ways, how you can get payment in the requested way.
Do you know any system, that we can use to implement credit card charging inside User Manager ?
 
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:45 pm

With Radius Manager 3 you can Pay by VISA but I don't know how. I'm installing it now to test this, but I don't know any system to do this. I'm working on it.
For doing this you need a local bank account with this system or a company that works with many banks. Here in Spain is called TPV Virtual (Virtual Point of sale) and every bank has his own Virtual TPV:

This is a company that avoid the necessity of make a contract with a bank.
http://www.e-tpv.com/e-tpv/html/modules ... age&pid=91




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Re: User Manager Payment Systems

Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:00 pm

We are consider different ways, how you can get payment in the requested way.
Do you know any system, that we can use to implement credit card charging inside User Manager ?
Business-OnlinePayment:
http://search.cpan.org/~jasonk/Business ... ment-2.01/

used also by the open source freeside ISP billing system.

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:42 pm

Giepie, currently there is not any plans for such feature.
Sergejs,

In South Africa we cannot accept Paypal or Authorize.net due to currency control restrictions.

We would dearly like to be able to interface with a generic User Manager Payment System.

Has the situation changed any, would it be possible to do this now?

Perhaps you could tell us what cookie / username / password parameters could be parsed on the HotSpot login page, then we could try to create a script which 'fakes' login after successful transfer from our custom gateway?
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Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:08 am

Is there any way that we provide users with scratch card voucher, and by using this scratch card, user can create/refresh his own account?
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Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:07 pm

http://www.moneybookers.com is pretty popular, especially for those who cannot use paypal.
 
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