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p4rv33n
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Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:26 am

Hi.

I am willing to buy a mikrotik device for bandwidth shapping, firewall rules and radius server, AAA as I need to run 1000 customers through it on pppoe authentication.
I raising the questions, which is more better option Routerboard device e.g(1009,1036) or RouterOS x86 architecture on CPU hardware.
and one thing more I need this device to support atleast 500 MB of WAN traffic with load balancing.
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:46 pm

There is anybody who can help me, I am looking to buy a hardware for next 3 Years.
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:08 pm

Hi,
seems.
u want to manage 1000 customers through pppoe authentication. it's a large number of customers you have . RouterBoard 1009 is Recommend for you with level 6 license .

if you want make pc x86 router u need a high config pc with minimum 2 NIC card and maximum power supply unit with mikroik router os and level 6 licence.
you can also support 500MB WAN traffic with load balancing.


Hope that will help you.

Thanks
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:12 pm

Hi,
seems.
u want to manage 1000 customers through pppoe authentication. it's a large number of customers you have . RouterBoard 1009 is Recommend for you with level 6 license .

if you want make pc x86 router u need a high config pc with minimum 2 NIC card and maximum power supply unit with mikroik router os and level 6 licence.
you can also support 500MB WAN traffic with load balancing.


For more details Please Check Licensing : http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:License

Hope that will help you.

Thanks
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:10 pm

Hi,
seems.
u want to manage 1000 customers through pppoe authentication. it's a large number of customers you have . RouterBoard 1009 is Recommend for you with level 6 license .

if you want make pc x86 router u need a high config pc with minimum 2 NIC card and maximum power supply unit with mikroik router os and level 6 licence.
you can also support 500MB WAN traffic with load balancing.


For more details Please Check Licensing : http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:License

Hope that will help you.

Thanks
ce


Thanks Mimahmed,

So I must need a licence to run 1000 customers even hardware is routerboard or x86 device? Can you differentiate which hardware is best.
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:47 pm

Hi,
seems.
u want to manage 1000 customers through pppoe authentication. it's a large number of customers you have . RouterBoard 1009 is Recommend for you with level 6 license .

if you want make pc x86 router u need a high config pc with minimum 2 NIC card and maximum power supply unit with mikroik router os and level 6 licence.
you can also support 500MB WAN traffic with load balancing.


For more details Please Check Licensing : http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:License

Hope that will help you.

Thanks
ce


Thanks Mimahmed,

So I must need a licence to run 1000 customers even hardware is routerboard or x86 device? Can you differentiate which hardware is best.
Greetings Again ..

Yes You have to buy a level 6 license if u have more than 500 customers ..

More details about licensing please visit : http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:License here you will find all details about all level of mikro tik licenses .

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About Hardware

Use New Intel MainBoard With Hyper threading i5 or i7 processor as your need .. and at least My suggestion is 8GB RAM .. 256 SSD for better performance ... at least 2 lan card

search google this name for know details ...
(CSL - Gigabit LAN PCI network card / Fast Ethernet Adapter 10/100/1000 DSL Realtek | 2000 Mbit (full duplex) | 32 Bit | PCI Bus 2.2 )..

And Also a High End Power Supply Like :

search on google with this name :

Sentey Xplus Power Supply 725 Watt (XPP725-HS)

also Buy a cooling system for assure that your pc router not become Overheat . Its very recommended .to use a cooling system.

for best desktop cooling system search google or amazon .

if you need any kind of information ... just ask

Thanks
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:53 am

which hardware is best to use? Routerboard vs x86
And if I choose x86 then it is best to use with guestOS in visualization. In near future i will use freeradius and freeside with it and a monitoring software. What are the benefits of visualization of server?
Kindly advice for above?
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:49 pm

which hardware is best to use? Routerboard vs x86
And if I choose x86 then it is best to use with guestOS in visualization. In near future i will use freeradius and freeside with it and a monitoring software. What are the benefits of visualization of server?
Kindly advice for above?

sorry for late .....

Use Routerboard if you want use freeradius and freeside with it and a monitoring software .

The benefits of visualization of server is

For Better Management you can sit on your single pc and manage all of your virtual servers .
Better performance
Reduce Cost
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:23 am

which hardware is best to use? Routerboard vs x86
And if I choose x86 then it is best to use with guestOS in visualization. In near future i will use freeradius and freeside with it and a monitoring software. What are the benefits of visualization of server?
Kindly advice for above?

sorry for late .....

Use Routerboard if you want use freeradius and freeside with it and a monitoring software .

The benefits of visualization of server is

For Better Management you can sit on your single pc and manage all of your virtual servers .
Better performance
Reduce Cost
There is any reason to prefer Routerboard for freeradius and freeside.
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:26 pm

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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:35 pm

The benefits of visualization of server is

For Better Management you can sit on your single pc and manage all of your virtual servers .
Better performance
Reduce Cost
I'm afraid I can't agree...

You can sit on your single PC and manage all your routerboards. even in unconfigured state (mac-telnet, mac-winbox, and even beter, RoMON). Guess you refer to the "hardware part" of the virtual servers.

I don't agree either on "better performance", there are limitations on 10G interfaces, and virtualized nics performance can be a bottleneck on x86 (that's why CHR was released), that is not speaking of IRQ bottlenecks...

Actually you don't reduce costs at all but very specific scenarios by using virtual x86. Additionally, routerboards are much more reliable than PC hardware, see the link on previous post.

It would be a different story (in terms of mid and long-term costs) if the system had to be housed on a NOC, where you usualy pay per rack space and power draw on a monthly basis. Again, that's why Cloud Hosted Router ROS version was released for.
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:27 pm

The benefits of visualization of server is

For Better Management you can sit on your single pc and manage all of your virtual servers .
Better performance
Reduce Cost
I'm afraid I can't agree...

You can sit on your single PC and manage all your routerboards. even in unconfigured state (mac-telnet, mac-winbox, and even beter, RoMON). Guess you refer to the "hardware part" of the virtual servers.

I don't agree either on "better performance", there are limitations on 10G interfaces, and virtualized nics performance can be a bottleneck on x86 (that's why CHR was released), that is not speaking of IRQ bottlenecks...

Actually you don't reduce costs at all but very specific scenarios by using virtual x86. Additionally, routerboards are much more reliable than PC hardware, see the link on previous post.

It would be a different story (in terms of mid and long-term costs) if the system had to be housed on a NOC, where you usualy pay per rack space and power draw on a monthly basis. Again, that's why Cloud Hosted Router ROS version was released for.
What can be limitation in Virtualization of CHR?If we use RouterOS with freeradius,freeside,dude with it.
 
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Re: Routerboard vs RouterOS on x86 ?

Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:56 am

major routerboards advantage - Complete 9-in-1 solution "unpack and use"-style.
with x86 build you had to do lot of things, despite standard images for.
with x86 is more popular routing-centric L-UX, xBSD distros derrivatives of many kinds, usually than ROS or legacy platforms ports. but some early adopters - migrate to x86 from MIPSBE before trying CCR devices.
i guess thats only before CCR start scale properly per-cores and/or tilera chips start being priced little more reasonable and competive and resulted devices, thus - become more attractive too, perhaps.
otherwise they/vendors eventually switch to other suppliers, which ironically already start happening even in defense/aerospace.

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