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EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:37 pm

Hi! I am trying to establish ethernet connection over pptp connection and then bridge those connections in order to establish connection with iptv settopbox over that.

Home location (ISP router/bridge for iptv > MTik ether4 > pptp server & EoIP over pptp > bridgeed ether4 & EoIP tunnel )
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Remote location ( > bridged ether4 & EoIP tunnel > pptp client & EoIP over pptp > MTik ether 4 > IPtv topbox

I was following this MUM "tutorial" (tnx to the author) : http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/I ... 685149.pdf
Eoip tunnel over pptp connection is successfully established but iptv box is not connecting. Can someone give me a hint? Tnx!
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:47 am

Look for BCP Bridging with L2TP
 
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:54 pm

Thank you @mistry7 on your help.
I was googling and trying for 2 days mostly by following mum presentations and trial and error approach. I successfully establish BCP bridge with l2tp as well as already mentioned EoIP tunnel through VPN (pptp as well as l2tp) but unfortunately IPTV box is not connecting.
Based on my experiance (I am an amateur so excuse me if I am wrong) it might be something with MTU / MRU sizes .? The connections / EoIP tunnel is well astablished but comunication through it is not properly working.
Can someone please help me? I experimented with plenty of settings but with no full sucess.

EDIT: If it might be of importance to solve the puzzle: My remote Mikrotik is connected to internet through 4g usb dongle.
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV  [SOLVED]

Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:20 pm

The EoIP settings in that presentation are not correct in as much that the MTU is not set - it should be forced to 1500 to be properly transparent to full-size ethernet frames. BCP over a PPP-like interface with MRRU set (to enable Multilink PPP) will also handle full-sized ethernet frames.

There is info in the wiki on BCP https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:B ... _bridging) (slightly outdated) and EoIP https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/EoIP.

PPTP should be avoided, with MSCHAPv2 / MPPE encryption it is no longer secure. L2TP/IPsec supports BCP so would be a better choice.
 
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:26 pm

Try to set PPTP MRRU=1600 on both sites and uncheck Clamp TCP MSS on EoIP tunnels too!
 
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:22 am

Thank you very very much both of you!
Best wishes in new 2021 too, for you and all others. Such fast responses are so nice thing. Tnx.

I set EoIP MTU to 1500 on both sides, and also unchecked Clamp TCP MSS on both sides. I also set MRRU to 1600 on pptp server as well as client side, but unfortunately it still doesn't work.
When IPTV STB is directly connected on main location it gets a private IP from 10.0.0.0/8 range, so I think that ISP is doing that through some DHCP server. This makes me thinking that a dhcp might also be a problem? I saw on the forum that there are recommendations to put dhcp server directly on bridge interface instead of regular ether interface so remote clients will be able to get ip from that dhcp server. In my case I can not do that because ISP is giving private IP to my IPTV STB, so wondering if this might also be a bottleneck.

Tnx also for referring to pptp security! In my case scenarion security is not so important as this link tunnel will only be utilised for iptv while all other remote communication and management is already going through my l2tp/ipsec setup on that mikrotik. I adore Mikrotik especially for its security opportunities that I always try to utilise. But I think that this iptv can be as simple as possible. Nothing is exposed. Unfortunately it is not working for now nor simple nor complicated. :-)

Uf, when I was thinking about the idea I tought that it will be achievable with couple of hours of trial and error for non pro amateur as I am, but it seems that it is much harder.

Do you have some more suggestions and options for me to try? Tnx very much.
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Re: EoIP bridging over PPTP for remote IPTV

Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:32 am

Just to inform that I have "resolved" the problem. I succeeded with the BCP over PPTP with MRRU=1600. For now it works great. I saw arround the web that EoIP is somehow "quirky" and in my example it seems so. The solution was to give up EoIP and implement BCP bridging over PPP as proposed by @tdw. Tnx for that!
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