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Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:04 pm

Hi, first post here.
So I have purchased "wAP ac" and want to setup it as AP.
I watched several tutorials - but I haven't found the exact configuration that I want, and I can't get it working by myself.
Any tips are greatly appreciated, or even better, complete tutorial for my situation.

Here is what I'd like to do:
- I have a typical home router with WiFi and some ethernet ports
- home router is in LAN 192.168.1.0/24 and has DHCP server running, also some port forwarding to internet
- I want to connect home router and wAP with ethernet cable (not through WiFi) and locate in my backyard
- I want wAP to create WiFi with different SSID than home router
- I want clients that connect to wAP to be in the same 192.168.1.0/24 network (as if they connected directly to home router - so port forwading can be used)

Bear with me if this is very simple problem, but I tried several setups and none of this worked.
I almost got it working with virtual wlan, but I didn't want the original MikroTik WiFi to be present too.

Hope to learn basics of RouterOs as it looks inifinitely capable !

thanks,
-michal
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help  [SOLVED]

Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:22 pm

I think I found the right config - can anybody take a look and say if it makes sense?
The missing piece of information was to change DHCP client to use bridge (not ether1).
I found this tip here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=175769&p=860720&hil ... et#p860720

So, here is brief of configuration:
- change wlan1 interface into mode ap-bridge, set SSID to different name than home router
- create bridge1 with ports: ether1 + wlan1
- change dhcp client to work on bridge1 (by default it's set to ether1)
- there is no DHCP server

However the connection speed test is around 16Mbps (If connected directly to home router 2.4 GHz it's ~83 Mbps).
How can I investigate this ?

Here is complete setup:
# jul/06/2021 22:15:08 by RouterOS 6.48.3
# software id = QD1Z-KI5S
#
# model = RouterBOARD wAP 2nD r2
# serial number = 6D850B338B0F
/interface bridge
add name=bridge1
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" mode=dynamic-keys name=\
    oberon_ex_profile supplicant-identity="" wpa2-pre-shared-key=XXXXXX
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] country=poland disabled=no mode=ap-bridge \
    security-profile=oberon_ex_profile ssid=oberon_e7
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan1
/ip neighbor discovery-settings
set discover-interface-list=!dynamic
/ip dhcp-client
add disabled=no interface=bridge1
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Warsaw
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:59 am

So, here is brief of configuration:
- change wlan1 interface into mode ap-bridge, set SSID to different name than home router
- create bridge1 with ports: ether1 + wlan1
- change dhcp client to work on bridge1 (by default it's set to ether1)
- there is no DHCP server
...doesn't sound too bad...this should get you going....Maybe in wireless settings for wlan1, confine the 2G band to G/N only. (btw is there a reason you are omitting the 5G Band/wlan2?)

Besides one "small" thing...do not just add these commands, but totally wipe the configuration before you start and stay away from quicksets!
You should have Winbox on a Windows PC available and a wired connection to the wAP.
Then go to: System -> Reset Configuration -> select only "no default configuration" and "do not backup"....then hit Apply/OK.
After that, when the wAP comes back up again, use Winbox in legacy mode and directly connect via ethernet and MAC (as the wap will not have an IP after the Wipe....the wAP should appear in the neighbors tab in winbox).
Then follow your steps.
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:18 am

..is there a reason you are omitting the 5G Band/wlan2?...
Yes, there is not one "5G / wlan2" on that model...
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:29 am

Yes, there is not one "5G / wlan2" on that model...
Uhmm...OP stated that this is regarding a freshly purchased "wAP ac", that's why I assumed there is...at least mine have ;-)
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:33 am

I understand... The user often can not distinguish models...
I know the model from the export: "RouterBOARD wAP 2nD r2"
Another user on another post exchange optic power on fiber with wireless wifi strengt.........

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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:36 am

# model = RouterBOARD wAP 2nD r2
... the connection speed test is around 16Mbps...

I hope you request a refund if someone sell you one standard wAP [RBwAP 2nD r2] as one "wAP ac"
Do not expect more prestations from this model!!! Cant' be the same as "true" wAP ac...
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:48 am

However the connection speed test is around 16Mbps (If connected directly to home router 2.4 GHz it's ~83 Mbps).
How can I investigate this ?
Check speed from cable AP end, to be sure there is no fancy config in router.
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:46 pm

I know the model from the export: "RouterBOARD wAP 2nD r2"
...right you are, newest wAP ac model should report as "RBwAPG-5HacD2HnD"
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:45 pm

# model = RouterBOARD wAP 2nD r2
... the connection speed test is around 16Mbps...

I hope you request a refund if someone sell you one standard wAP [RBwAP 2nD r2] as one "wAP ac"
Do not expect more prestations from this model!!! Cant' be the same as "true" wAP ac...
Hehe it seems I got what I ordered, just checked my emails :)
But that's OK, this model was quite cheap and I needed to make sure I can create the configuration I need.
Now I can upgrade to something better !

thanks for all the answers !
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Fri Jul 09, 2021 3:26 pm

So I purchased model RBwAPG-5HacD2HnD
Download speed over 5GHz wifi is still under 23Mbps

I manually selected 5GHz channel 5260 where no other networks are present.
What's wrong ?

EDIT: after changing mode to N/AC and channel width to 20/40/80 XXX I am getting 300MBps download and 400 upload.
Thats good, but far from advertised "Wireless 5 GHz Max data rate: 1300 Mbit/s "
And why better upload ?
# jul/09/2021 14:43:32 by RouterOS 6.48.3
# software id = IZ8U-EVUT
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# model = RBwAPG-5HacD2HnD
# serial number = E4650E516EA6
/interface bridge
add name=bridge1
/interface wireless security-profiles
set [ find default=yes ] supplicant-identity=MikroTik
add authentication-types=wpa2-psk eap-methods="" mode=dynamic-keys name=\
    callisto_prof supplicant-identity="" wpa2-pre-shared-key=xxx
/interface wireless
set [ find default-name=wlan1 ] country=poland disabled=no mode=ap-bridge \
    name=wlan2 security-profile=callisto_prof ssid=callisto2
set [ find default-name=wlan2 ] band=5ghz-n/ac channel-width=20/40/80mhz-XXXX \
    country=poland disabled=no frequency=5260 mode=ap-bridge name=wlan5 \
    security-profile=callisto_prof ssid=callisto5
/interface bridge port
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether1
add bridge=bridge1 interface=ether2
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan2
add bridge=bridge1 interface=wlan5
add bridge=bridge1 disabled=yes interface=all
/ip neighbor discovery-settings
set discover-interface-list=!dynamic
/ip dhcp-client
add disabled=no interface=bridge1
/system clock
set time-zone-name=Europe/Warsaw
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:38 pm

Frozsu, no one gets 1300Mbps wireless, what planet are you on??
Also, can you read? What wireless specification????????
RBwAPG-5HacD2HnD - specifications state 1200 speed (867+300=1167 rounded up).

You have also been fooled by marketing speak.
First all companies state the total up and down theoretical capacity of their products.
Secondly all companies combine the 2.4 and 5GHz capacities for a grandiose total.
Hence the above producted is marketed at AC1200.

So if your looking at one way speeds divide out the bands and then divide those by two and then subtract losses due to walls interfering sources etc....
Standard rule of thumb is take the speed and divide by 1/3 to get reasonable real life speeds and if you do better thats a bonus!

Hence, your imaginary 1300 is actually 1200 and
further 300Mbps/3 for 2.4ghz yields expected speeds one way of 100Mbps
further 867Mbsp/3 for 5ghz yields expected speeds one way of 290Mbps

Therefore your speeds of 300 down and 400 up for 5Ghz are very good and showing less losses so you probably are testing with LOS and not much for interfering sources.
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:32 pm

anav! thanks for bringing me down from sky :)
Surely I confused specification data, but now I'm confident that my setup is quite OK !
In fact, I was testing on-bench so perfect LineOfSight.
Tomorrow I install in final location - we will see !
 
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Re: Simple wAP ac setup - beginners help

Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:10 am

Yup doing well. If you manage decent stability as well then you should be happy.

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