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mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:14 pm

Hello My friends..! so is it possible to merge Two ADSL network Line in one so to get a single line with double speed. in more simple way, my scenario like this:
i have ADSL line -1 carries 16 Mbit internet speed and it's cnnected to dlink router-1
also i have ADSL line-2 that also have 16 Mbit internet speed which in turn conected to dlink router-2

so i have two dlink router with two adsl line and each of them have 16 Mbit internet speed . SO MY QUESTION

is it possible to merge this two network with each other to get one single network with speed 32 Mbit...?
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:19 pm

No, the best any session will be able to have access to is 16Mbps, the advantage is you have more bandwidth to play with overall, so users will share a larger pot and you WOULD have a failover IF, the two ISP connections were from different carriers, like DSL and CABLE for example.
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:23 pm

No, the best any session will be able to have access to is 16Mbps, the advantage is you have more bandwidth to play with overall, so users will share a larger pot and you WOULD have a failover IF, the two ISP connections were from different carriers, like DSL and CABLE for example.
hello again Mr anav, realy appreciate your answers..!
so please can you explain more what you mean by that..? so do you mean to apply failover and multigate way in routing table in mikrotik..? or what..?
i remember that i have this two ISP scenario once and i apply recursive routing in it, but no thing else.
so do you have any other way that i can apply when i have two ISP..? so i can get benefit from it.
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:29 pm

You want some kind of load balancing, for example: https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:PCC
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:37 pm

As Sob indicates that is how you equally share the two ISPs so that they are both available at the same time.
To be clear, any user will only have access to one ISP for any particular session, so if there are no other users, the one user could at most use 16Mbps of traffic and from one of the connections and not 32Mbps from both.

This is probably a great companion read to Sobs link.
https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US12/steve.pdf
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:03 am

The other option is more expansive and it will add overhead but it is possible, I know of other Mikrotik users who have panels of LHG's set up, they will have an EoIP tunnel running to a CHR working as an aggregator to allow all these different connections to be bonded together for higher throughput.

This is not the best idea as bonding will never get to 2x the speed due to overheads and you might introduce latency depending on where your chr is sitting an how you have set that up (latency can effect tcp connections throughput so its not all about gaming)
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:31 am

please anyone know what this guy is doing in this video -https://youtu.be/MjOFYvMi3GM- the title is "combining 2 internet connection to increase the speed" but didn't understand why he create all this mangle rule. is that make scence...?
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT  [SOLVED]

Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:48 am

Without having to look at anything, I simply tell you that two connections cannot be added together like two streams of water.
Whatever you do, using standard devices, it is impossible to increase the speed beyond the fastest ADSL.

What can be done is to distribute the connections between the two lines for an almost homogeneous use.
With some programs you can download multiple pieces (in different places) of the same file at the same time (if the remote site supports it),
apparently increasing the download speed of that file.
Some speedtests (if the router is configured well) can make it seem like a higher download speed, but that's bullshit, because in real traffic,
on sites where authorization is requested, it is not allowed (rightly, for safety) to use the service simultaneously authenticating from multiple IPs.
Obviously, if the content is static, and does not require authorization, it makes no difference, but the mangle cannot know it regardless,
unless it manages lists of sites that can or cannot be consulted without authentication.

To "really" add up the download speed, at the cost of increasing latency often more than double,
it is possible (ignoring the details for now) to make two VPNs, one for each ADSL line, on a single remote router,
and take advantage of the connection of the remote router (which obviously must have at least double the bandwidth of the sum of the ADSL).
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:08 pm

please anyone know what this guy is doing in this video -https://youtu.be/MjOFYvMi3GM- the title is "combining 2 internet connection to increase the speed" but didn't understand why he create all this mangle rule. is that make scence...?
Dont be so gullible, that video is pcc load balancing not explained, get out of you tube it makes one stupid and read the literature.
He cannot increase the speed of any one session, what he should have titled it was increase throughput available to all users.

if you insist on youtube examples stick with these posters....
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNetworkBerg
https://www.youtube.com/c/MAICTConsult
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:51 pm

please anyone know what this guy is doing in this video -https://youtu.be/MjOFYvMi3GM- the title is "combining 2 internet connection to increase the speed" but didn't understand why he create all this mangle rule. is that make scence...?
Dont be so gullible, that video is pcc load balancing not explained, get out of you tube it makes one stupid and read the literature.
He cannot increase the speed of any one session, what he should have titled it was increase throughput available to all users.

if you insist on youtube examples stick with these posters....
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNetworkBerg
https://www.youtube.com/c/MAICTConsult
yes i agree..! also i know both of them..and let me add another channel to your list
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheNetworkTrip/featured
this channel for Mr Wilmer almazan .. he is a mikrotik certificate trainer
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:11 pm

Will check it out, especially if I can use stuff for some of my guides. Thanks!
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:14 am

Will check it out, especially if I can use stuff for some of my guides. Thanks!
Mr anav do you have a trusted link or website or even video to apply load balancing in MT in a professional way..?
 
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Re: mergeing two ADSL network in one in MT

Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:07 pm

Version 6 centric but can be adpated.
https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US12/steve.pdf

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