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Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:46 pm

Hi Guys

I have just bought an RB 411U, and have connected an sierra wireless MC8790 3G PCIe and a SIM card, but is there anyone haveing a guide how to configure it? What should i configure?

I have searched for an turotial, but haven't found any

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:42 am

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:32 pm

Hi

Yeah but thoose guides are for 3G devices connected via the USB connector, i am working with the MC8790 which is conencted via the mini PCIe, and that seems to give some problems to the RB411U.

First of all the routerboard seems to be very in-responsive when the MC8790 is connected, but this can be because of communication problems.

I have verified the MC8790 on other systems, and here there is not problems.

What i am looking for is information about which channels to use? The MC8790 has 7 channels, and i have managed to do a serial login to channel 4 with 9600 baud, but when i am configuring the ppp-client to use channel 4, it gets action timeout.

Below is my ppp-client configuration

interface ppp-client print
Flags: X - disabled, R - running
0 name="ppp-out1" max-mtu=1500 max-mru=1500 mrru=disabled port=usb2 command-channel=4
data-channel=0 info-channel=0 user="" password="" profile=ppp-3 phone="*99***1#"
dial-command="ATDT" modem-init="AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","bredband.tre.dk"" null-modem=no
dial-on-demand=no add-default-route=no use-peer-dns=no allow=pap,chap,mschap1,mschap2

system resource usb print
# DEVICE VENDOR NAME SPEED
0 2:1 RB400 EHCI 480 Mbps
1 2:2 Sierra Wireless, Incorporated Mini Card 480 Mbps
2 1:1 RB400 OHCI 12 Mbps


It takes around 2 minutes to print below

[admin@MikroTik] > port print
Flags: I - inactive
# NAME CHANNELS USED-BY BAUD-RATE
0 serial0 1 Serial Console auto
1 usb2 7 PPP <ppp-out1> 9600
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:46 pm

Hi Guys

I managed to solve the MC8790 issues!!

The main issue is the firmware of the MC8790, version 1.x is NOT compatible with RouterOS 3.25, the board get's inresponsive, and pratically impossible to work with, but with MC8790 version 2.x, it's a pleasure to work with!

My working configuration is like this:

[admin@MikroTik] > system resource usb print
# DEVICE VENDOR NAME SPEED
0 2:1 RB400 EHCI 480 Mbps
1 2:3 Sierra Wireless, Inco... MC8790 480 Mbps
2 1:1 RB400 OHCI 12 Mbps

[admin@MikroTik] > port print
Flags: I - inactive
# NAME CHANNELS USED-BY BAUD-RATE
0 serial0 1 Serial Console auto
1 usb3 7 PPP <ppp-out1> 9600

[admin@MikroTik] > interface ppp-client print
Flags: X - disabled, R - running
0 R name="ppp-out1" max-mtu=1500 max-mru=1500 mrru=disabled port=usb3
command-channel=3 data-channel=3 info-channel=0 user="" password=""
profile=ppp-3 phone="*99***1#" dial-command="ATDT"
modem-init="AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","bredband.tre.dk"" null-modem=no
dial-on-demand=no add-default-route=no use-peer-dns=no
allow=pap,chap,mschap1,mschap2
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:02 pm

Hi,

I'm searching such a solution to send a SMS from a RB411U or RB411UAHR with a PrePay Sim card.
Do you think/know this is possible?

Regards,
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:56 pm

Sorry,
it could be OT.
I've this fw version of MC8790:
Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Inc.
Model: MC8790
Revision: K1_1_1_9AP C:/WS/FW/K1_1_1_9AP/MSM6290/SRC 2009/03/03 15:24:39

How did you upgrade to version 2?

Thanks
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:17 pm

Ipala;

All firmwares and aplications are here;

I am using firmware version 2.0.7.1B but I can not connect to internet successfully until now , some people advised to use masquerade but no way, It is not working.

I paid more money for ten piece 411U and MC8790 but they are sitting on my desk :(

good luck

http://shop.zadako.com/hsdpa_3g_modems/ ... hsupa.html

http://www.zadako.sk/download/3G+/MC879 ... 7_15AP.zip
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:02 am

Ipala;

All firmwares and aplications are here;

I am using firmware version 2.0.7.1B but I can not connect to internet successfully until now , some people advised to use masquerade but no way, It is not working.

I paid more money for ten piece 411U and MC8790 but they are sitting on my desk :(

good luck

http://shop.zadako.com/hsdpa_3g_modems/ ... hsupa.html

http://www.zadako.sk/download/3G+/MC879 ... 7_15AP.zip
how far did you get? does it connect at all? are there any error messages in log?
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:39 pm

Normis hi;

I have boards since 1 month;

First I tried 411U boards with HP's UN2400 ( Qualcaomm Gobi1000) but that 3G module doesn't support .

after I bought Sierra Wireless MC8790 and it worked, board can attached 3G network and take IP.

There is not any error because there is not any fault. 3G card and 411U can attached 3G network successfuly.

but but but 3G provider is giving same gateway IP with attached IP , can it make problem?
[admin@MikroTik] > ip route pr
Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, 
C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, 
B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit 
#      DST-ADDRESS        PREF-SRC        GATEWAY            DISTANCE
0  DS  0.0.0.0/0                          188.38.52.220      1       
1 ADC  188.38.52.220/32   188.38.52.220   ppp-out1           0       
2 ADC  192.168.1.0/24     192.168.1.1     ether1             0     
I have masquerade;
[admin@MikroTik] > ip firewall nat pr
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic 
0   chain=srcnat action=masquerade out-interface=ppp-out1 
I send a lot message to forum and answers didn't solve my problem.

I have Ticket#2010021166000511 as well.

:(
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:39 pm

Problem solved, I can connect 3G network and I can surf Internet via RB411U+MC8790 combination.

Problem was add-default-route=yes, don't enable that in UMTS interface and add manualy route with gatewat=ppp interface as UMTS connection.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:43 pm

Hi,

I have the same problem with unresponsive RB411U that I have just installed a mini-Pcie MC8790 card in. Any solution on this one yet?

br,

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:10 pm

Confirming solution. I updated a firmware to 2.0.7x on my mini-PCI adapter and the router is responsive and works perfectly. In order to upgrade the mini-PCIe adapter you need the board or converter to USB and Sierra Wireless software upgrade. (Be sure to upgrade the Sierra Wireless board firmware before upgrading the firmware on the mini-pcie adapter (MC8790). The correct (easiest) procedure would be to contanct your local Sierra Wireless distributor, (because Sierra Wireless firmware and upgrade solutions aren't free for public (mini-pcie models, USB are)) and let them upgrade it for you.

Good routing!

p.s.

Works with RoS 4.10 and beta5 np.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:35 pm

To any one who's currently battling this problem and feels like they're getting nowhere:

I know how you feel. I had battled this issue with the MC8790 for a while. Eventually I engineered myself into Sierra Wireless and got access to their unlocked firmware upgrade exe's for Windows. They work well with a little netbook that has a mini-PCIe port. However even after moving to 2.0.7 I still had issues with latency and connection. My suggestion? Purchase an MC8700, they're faster (21mbps as opposed to 7mbps) and easier to work with. I just dropped it into my RB411u and poof it worked.

TL;DR: MC8790 Bad | MC8700 FTW
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:12 am

Hi everyone
I have a question for You @syntaxcollector.
Can you describe how you manage to run the MC8700. I have RB411u + MC8700, and unfortunately when i run I see the modem but no USB2 port for the modem.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:59 am

Hey guys,
MC8700 is only running on RouterOS5.0 beta version.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:19 pm

Its working perfectly from 4.10 and up, you only need the new firmware 2.x.x.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:59 am

Hi bysard,
are you taking about 2.X.x on MC8700??
As for as i know, you can't put 2.x.x on MC8700.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:10 pm

m2mconnectivity:

You are right, my bad, was too quick. I only tested MC8790 and it works ok after firmware upgrade. Although I like miniPCIe solutions in Mikrotik, maybe it's not a bad idea to check the Globethrotter USB UMTS modems. Very cheap, reliable enough and much lower prices then Sierra Wireless, which is very very overpriced. Atleast in my country.

USB UMTS Globethrotter = cca 20-25€
SW mini PCIe cards = cca 100€+
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:07 pm

Anyone have an idea howto upgrade the MC8790? See this topic: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48119
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:30 pm

If it's an PCI-E model you need a special board to upgrade it. As far as i know it can only be done by the SW representative for a specific country. USB versions have no problems being updated over PC. Correct me pls if i'm wrong.
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:22 pm

To upgrade you can use the PCI-E port in a laptop and run the correct upgrade exe. Has anyone successfully used a MC8705 yet?
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:03 pm

My configuration:

Mikrotik RB411U

RouterOS v 5.1
Current firmware: 2.29

Port: usb2 (default)
Data channel: 6
Info channel: 3

Status: call in progress
PIN Status: no password required
Functionality: full
GPRS Class: A - GPRS & GSM simultaneous
Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated
Model: MC8790
Revision: K2_0_7_35AP C:/WS/FW/K2_0_7_35AP/MSM6290/SRC 2010/03/04 17:37:08
Current operator: RO Vodafone RO
Access technology: 3G

0 R name="ppp-out1" max-mtu=1500 max-mru=1500 mrru=disabled port=usb2
data-channel=6 info-channel=3 apn="internet.vodafone.ro" pin=""
user="internet.vodafone.ro" password="vodafone" profile=default
phone="" dial-command="ATDT" modem-init="" null-modem=no
dial-on-demand=no add-default-route=yes use-peer-dns=yes
keepalive-timeout=30 allow=pap,chap,mschap1,mschap2

Worked perfect from the start, configured using GUI (winbox), connected just the main antenna. Already 2 days without disconnection, reconnecting automatically after power loss.
PowerRouter732/RB1000/50xRB750/4xRB750G/4xRB411U (USB 3g failed to work in a production environment/use at home only)
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon May 02, 2011 8:26 pm

Hi,

Ghiooo, is it really mandatory the use of: user="internet.vodafone.ro" and password="vodafone".

I ask this because normally i use this SIM card with my USB3G pen and it doesn´t ask for USER or PASSWORD only PIN.

Can you post me a log of a connection of your MC8790 just to second check the behaviour of my MC8755.

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Mon May 02, 2011 11:32 pm

It isn't mandatory for some operators and their smart sim cards, but it is safer to use them, in my country the old name of the Vodafone network was Connex and this name is still broadcasted, with the same network id, because there are still some old sim cards active in the network (i guess this is the reason). To avoid any problem i entered the APN, username and password, not to mention that i will use another APN and another username, the sim does not "know" about it, with a static ip, if i don't enter it, i can not use my static IP. I'll post tomorrow some logs, if it helps, and i recommend to use your APN, user and Password.
PowerRouter732/RB1000/50xRB750/4xRB750G/4xRB411U (USB 3g failed to work in a production environment/use at home only)
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue May 03, 2011 1:43 pm

Hi,

How can i know which DATA CHANNEL and INFO CHANNEL to use on the config?

At the moment my configurations are:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags: X - disabled, R - running
0 R name="tmn internet" max-mtu=1500 max-mru=1500 mrru=disabled port=usb2
data-channel=1 info-channel=0 apn="internet" pin="" user="tmn"
password="tmnnet" profile=default phone="*99#" dial-command="ATDT"
modem-init="" null-modem=no dial-on-demand=yes add-default-route=yes
use-peer-dns=yes allow=pap,chap,mschap1,mschap2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags: D - dynamic, X - disabled, R - running, S - slave
# NAME TYPE MTU L2MTU
0 R ether1 ether 1500 1526
1 X wlan1 wlan 1500
2 R tmn internet ppp-out
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid, D - dynamic
# ADDRESS NETWORK BROADCAST INTERFACE
0 ;;; default configuration
192.168.88.1/24 192.168.88.0 192.168.88.255 ether1
1 D 10.64.64.94/32 10.112.112.142 0.0.0.0 tmn internet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S - static, r - rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme,
B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P - prohibit
# DST-ADDRESS PREF-SRC GATEWAY DISTANCE
0 ADS 0.0.0.0/0 10.112.112.142 1
1 ADC 10.112.112.142/32 10.64.64.94 tmn internet 0
2 ADC 192.168.88.0/24 192.168.88.1 ether1 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have some strange issue with the DIAL UP ON DEMAND, whenever i untick it and apply changes, the status of the interface "tmn internet" passes from R (running) to blank... I have no idea what this means, and normally from what i have read all users, have this option unticked. Any ideas on this?

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Thu May 05, 2011 7:01 pm

Ghiooo,

Can you post the print of your setup for the following commands:
  • - ip route pr
    - ip firewall nat pr
    - system resource usb print
    - interface ppp-client print
I´m using the MC8755 and still having problems with it...

Best regards
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Fri May 06, 2011 7:09 pm

Hi ppl,

More info...

When i use the terminal of winbox with the PPP-client interface disabled i can check that the MC8755 is working.
In this case i used:

SCAN command
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags: C - current, A - available, F - forbidden
OPERATOR CODE ACCESS-TECHNOLOGY SIGNAL-STRENGH
A vodafone P 26801 GSM compact
A P OPTIMUS 26803 GSM compact
C vodafone P 26801 3G -1
A P TMN 26806 GSM compact
A P TMN 26806 3G
A P OPTIMUS 26803 3G
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

INFO command
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
status: "ready"
pin-status: "waiting for network personalization PIN"
functionality: "minimum"
gprs-class: "ERROR"
manufacturer: "Sierra Wireless, Inc."
model: "MC8755"
revision: "U1_2_45MCAP G:/WS/FW/U1_2_45MCAP/MSM6275/SRC 2006/10/04 17:52:27"
serial-number: "358635001331280"
current-operator: "Limited Service"
access-technology: "3G"
signal-strengh: -1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As you can see the MC8755 can find the 3 portuguese mobile operators (TMN, OPTIMUS, VODAFONE).
In the info i cannot find anything strange, can anyone find?

Can anyone help me, i´m stuck...
I´m still having problems with the topics i mentioned in the previous posts...

Thank you
 
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Sun May 08, 2011 3:27 pm

Hi, i have the same problem with my MC8781, i tried to upgrade firmware, but Windows XP wont see the card...
In my RB411U, all i get is "modem hunged up". I have a RB433 with Huawei E220 modem, and it is working perfectly!

@lmdthel: Do you have a link to the right and latest firmware for MC8781?

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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Tue May 10, 2011 1:57 am

pin-status: "waiting for network personalization PIN"
It is waiting some PIN code.

Have you tried to disable sim-card pin using a normal phone just to be sure it is not causing problem?

But I think your Sierra card could be operator locked. So it will work only with that operator card whos network it is locked.

You can find more information about operator locks by googling or from wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_lock

Probably going deeper in unlocking could be against this forum rules.. And I don't have experience so I can't tell more than wikipedia says.
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Re: Help to RB411U with Sierra Wireless MC8790

Thu May 12, 2011 4:46 am

To upgrade you can use the PCI-E port in a laptop and run the correct upgrade exe. Has anyone successfully used a MC8705 yet?
MC8705 WORKS ON ROUTEROS5.2

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