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[MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:53 pm

Hi folks,

I'm in a struggle with MPLS Traffic Eng in RouterOS. Let's put an ASCII diagram to help me explain:
		      ... R1 ...
Tail ----- R2			R3 ----- Head
		      *** R4 ****
- 100M
. 10M
* 50M
So far I'm able to establish two TE tunnels between R2 and R3. In fact, they behave very well in a 1+1ish scenario.
But what If I need to aggregate both links bandwidth to achieve 60M bandwidth between tail and head?
Is it doable?

* Cisco routers have the command "tunnel mpls traffic-eng load-share <0-1000000>". I don't know if this is a proprietary feature or if it's implemented on the RFC.

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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:50 pm

Hi folks,

I'm in a struggle with MPLS Traffic Eng in RouterOS. Let's put an ASCII diagram to help me explain:
		      ... R1 ...
Tail ----- R2			R3 ----- Head
		      *** R4 ****
- 100M
. 10M
* 50M
So far I'm able to establish two TE tunnels between R2 and R3. In fact, they behave very well in a 1+1ish scenario.
But what If I need to aggregate both links bandwidth to achieve 60M bandwidth between tail and head?
Is it doable?

* Cisco routers have the command "tunnel mpls traffic-eng load-share <0-1000000>". I don't know if this is a proprietary feature or if it's implemented on the RFC.

Thanks!
good question I also tried to do, but it seems that mikrotik does not have support for load share,
Anyone know if this is possible with mikrotik?
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:12 am

If anyone could tell us just if this is supported by RouterOS is a great start! :)
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links  [SOLVED]

Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:58 pm

Currently there is no equivalent to cisco TE load-share in RouterOS.
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:38 am

Currently there is no equivalent to cisco TE load-share in RouterOS.
Ia there any plans to implement this feature?
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:45 am

Currently there is no equivalent to cisco TE load-share in RouterOS.
+1
Please!!!
that would be great, we need this a lot !!!
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:01 am

Can you bond two VPLS tunnels together as a workaround?
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:20 am

Check out this MUM presentation; https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/ ... 062656.pdf

Video of presentation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZz2z6RdQY

You might be able to implement something along these lines :)
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:25 pm

Can you bond two VPLS tunnels together as a workaround?
Thanks! I'll have a look, but since I don't fully understand VPLS tunnels (are they Pseudowire/L2 tunnels over MPLS?), I don't believe it's a solution, but sure it's an alternative.
Check out this MUM presentation; https://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/ ... 062656.pdf

Video of presentation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZz2z6RdQY

You might be able to implement something along these lines :)
Thanks! Did a quick look in that presentation and it doesn't solve my problem, since MikroTik doesn't support for MPLS+ECMP :(
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:38 am

Can you bond two VPLS tunnels together as a workaround?
Thanks! I'll have a look, but since I don't fully understand VPLS tunnels (are they Pseudowire/L2 tunnels over MPLS?), I don't believe it's a solution, but sure it's an alternative.
Yes they are L2 Pseudowire tunnels over MPLS. I think you could probably do a setup where one VPLS tunnel was going through one MPLS-TE tunnel, and a second VPLS tunnel was going over a second MPLS-TE tunnel, and bond the two VPLS tunnels together.
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:44 am

Hopefully Mikrotik take a look at the way Juniper have implemented LSP Load Blancing, it works brilliantly.

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/e ... -lsps.html
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:18 pm

Can you bond two VPLS tunnels together as a workaround?
Thanks! I'll have a look, but since I don't fully understand VPLS tunnels (are they Pseudowire/L2 tunnels over MPLS?), I don't believe it's a solution, but sure it's an alternative.
Yes they are L2 Pseudowire tunnels over MPLS. I think you could probably do a setup where one VPLS tunnel was going through one MPLS-TE tunnel, and a second VPLS tunnel was going over a second MPLS-TE tunnel, and bond the two VPLS tunnels together.
Hum... this would work, but does not comply with the KISS principle and lacks scalability. :(
Hopefully Mikrotik take a look at the way Juniper have implemented LSP Load Blancing, it works brilliantly.

https://www.juniper.net/documentation/e ... -lsps.html
Yes! That's what I'm talking about! Nice and simple! @MikroTik should we expect something like this in the near future?
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:17 pm

Currently there is no equivalent to cisco TE load-share in RouterOS.
from my point of view this is not the solution because it remains unsolved


Please implement TE Load -share on RouterOS
For years I've been waiting for this solution on the routeros
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:52 am

I've been working on a pseudo-manual method using MPLS-TE, BGP communities, and link coloring to "manually" make more preferred paths for traffic-of-interest, overriding OSPF costs.

Does this interest you?
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:19 pm

I've been working on a pseudo-manual method using MPLS-TE, BGP communities, and link coloring to "manually" make more preferred paths for traffic-of-interest, overriding OSPF costs.

Does this interest you?
Yes this interests us. I have almost the exact same issue as the OP, however, I have 2x 1Gbps links that I need to aggregate for a total of 2Gbps bandwidth over MPLS. Currently this uses OSPF ECMP, but I want to enable MPLS and this is the only thing holding me back. How to handle this one link.
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Thu Sep 19, 2019 1:04 am

+1 Yes please! The load-balancing feature is the only one fixture that stops me to deploy MPLS in my network
 
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Re: [MPLS-TE] Balancing 2+ different bandwidth links

Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:54 am

any news?

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