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SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:23 pm

Hi,
I have a new CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ switch, and I would test SwOS.
So in Winbox I go to system, Routerboard, settings and choose SwOS in Boot OS.
I reboot the switch.

Nothing happens... The switch seems dead.
In console mode, I have this error :
RouterBOOT booter 6.45.7

CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+

CPU frequency: 650 MHz
 Memory speed: 300 MHz
  Memory size:  64 MiB
 Storage size:  16 MiB

Press any key within 2 seconds to enter setup..
Please, check ethernet cable...
Ethernet link absent...
trying bootp protocol................................. failed
kernel loading failed
So what i'm doing wrong ?
I return back to routerOS and use Winbox.
https://files.silibre.fr/index.php/s/r8WsDpWDBFJocBW

is it normal ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:55 am

So it's normal : https://mikrotik.com/product/crs354_48g_4splus2qplusrm
Only RouterOS.
Strange strategy, because all others CRS3XX products have SwOS.

So the new question is : when SwOS be available for this product ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:05 am

I had 2 pre-ordered, and when I ordered them the website most certainly said they supported SwOS. I had them shipped directly to the datacenter, and boy was I surprised at what I found when I flew out there to install them. No SwOS at all (although interestingly the quick guide in the box still stated it did). I immediately reached out to my suppliers and they said, "no, it does not have SwOS". I went back to the website and sure enough, all was changed. I sent them a picture of the guide in the box and they played it off as a printing mistake... I have also since found a google cached version of the QS guide from the MT site that did have the dual boot language in it.

My guess is that the production delays were related to SwOS so they canned it at the last minute to get the units out the door. I had to return them as I am not interested in running ROS on switches (love ROS, just not for switches). What a waste of time and money. I am very disappointed by MT for this last minute switcharoo and what seems like a cover up on the backend. Guess it really was too good to be true.

I should also mention, that the two I had, on ROS, spiked CPU temps to 65c and the fans to full blast within 3 minutes of boot with zero load and only one port connected for configuration on the bench (ambient temperature @ 68f). Not sure if that is too hot or if it would been fine under load, but it seemed concerning.

Here is the Google cached version if the quickstart guide: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... ent=safari
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:01 pm

WTF ?
Any Mikrotik team user can confirm that SwOS will be available for this model ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:50 am

The SwOS currently is not available for CRS354 devices, it may become available in future by software updates.
We have corrected all documentation regarding it and plan to hide non-working boot options to avoid confusion.
As a workaround, you can still utilize every available switch feature using RouterOS.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:11 pm

Thanks.

So for VLAN configuration and LACP, do you have a link to a documentation with examples on switch ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:38 am

VLANs are configured using a bridge with HW-offloaded vlan-filtering:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:I ... _Filtering

LACP is configured using bonding:
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:C ... es#Bonding
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:30 am

This is a real shame.

Maybe I'm a bit slow, but a job that I'd expect would take 15-30 minutes, unpacking a switch, hooking up som cables, setting up some bonds, tagging and untagging a few vlans. You know, switching, layer 2 stuff.

Has so far taken the better part of two days. Grasping RouterOS, while trying to hack together a, in networking terms, quite straight forward and simple configuration. I think I'm getting there, but this was a very unpleasant surprise for my first Mikrotik experience.

From what I've been able to grasp, routeros looks like a fantastically versatile and powerful tool. But I just need to tag a few vlans here, untag a few there, and bond a few, and that's about that. Switching stuff.

The switch itself looks like a pretty decent unit. Very good value for money. But if you're expecting a traditional switch setup experience, you're in for something else. This can be everything you want, and at least me, I'm going to have to learn a bit about it to feel comfortable deploying this thing. So considering the large investment in grasping routeros, perhaps it's not such good value after all. Especially if you're not deploying a large amount of these units.

I'm not in this product for routing things. Not even between vlans. I just want a easy setup switch.

By the way, the booklet that came with my unit, in addition to explaining how to boot swOS (which, if followed, puts the switch in a boot loop), also states it has a USB Type A connector. I've not been able to find one. You know what would be really nice? One of those micro-usb ports that contains a usb-to-serial interface for a management port. Those are very handy.

TL; DR;

RouterOS is probably great. But for simple switching stuff, it's ridiculously overkill.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu May 28, 2020 1:56 pm

Hi!
When will SwOS be available for CRS354? I have 14 days to send it back...
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:17 am

I unfortunately gambled to see if i could bypass to switchOs. Now i cant seem to revert to routerOS. Any idea how i can go by it. Don't have any point of interaction via winbox or console. Hard reset still didnt work. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:50 am

Hi,
I have a new CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ switch, and I would test SwOS.
So in Winbox I go to system, Routerboard, settings and choose SwOS in Boot OS.
I reboot the switch.

Nothing happens... The switch seems dead.
In console mode, I have this error :
RouterBOOT booter 6.45.7

CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+

CPU frequency: 650 MHz
 Memory speed: 300 MHz
  Memory size:  64 MiB
 Storage size:  16 MiB

Press any key within 2 seconds to enter setup..
Please, check ethernet cable...
Ethernet link absent...
trying bootp protocol................................. failed
kernel loading failed
So what i'm doing wrong ?
I return back to routerOS and use Winbox.
https://files.silibre.fr/index.php/s/r8WsDpWDBFJocBW

is it normal ?
How did you load routerOS back. Kindly share
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:09 am

I unfortunately gambled to see if i could bypass to switchOs. Now i cant seem to revert to routerOS. Any idea how i can go by it. Don't have any point of interaction via winbox or console. Hard reset still didnt work. Any help would be appreciated.
I did figure it out. Thanks!
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:49 am

I unfortunately gambled to see if i could bypass to switchOs. Now i cant seem to revert to routerOS. Any idea how i can go by it. Don't have any point of interaction via winbox or console. Hard reset still didnt work. Any help would be appreciated.
I did figure it out. Thanks!
Hi, you need serial console access ... and change the boot order.
Look here :
https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:RouterBOOT
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:16 am

Most of the vendor sites still state that this switch supports dual boot RouterOS and SwitchOS.

The boot option is in the console at startup to select Router OS or Switch OS.

This really needs Switch OS to make it work as it was made to work. Router OS with the CPU power at hand in this device can't even begin to handle the load required.

Router OS is great in a powerful router, but Switch OS is better for a switch.

Please get Switch OS updated to run on this hardware.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:47 am

@Mikrotik, any solution? when can boot in SwOS??
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:43 pm

Please get Switch OS updated to run on this hardware.
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:13 pm

We configured this device using the RouterOS and observe packet loss. When the SwOS comes out for these devices?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:32 am

We configured this device using the RouterOS and observe packet loss. When the SwOS comes out for these devices?
Same problem, i hope @Mikrotik solve these problem.
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:26 am

We configured this device using the RouterOS and observe packet loss. When the SwOS comes out for these devices?
Same problem, i hope @Mikrotik solve these problem.
Same thing for me....
@Mikrotik : no response since many days. What are you doing ?
I need another 48 Gb ports for a client, and I have choosen an Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-48-LITE...
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:55 am

We configured this device using the RouterOS and observe packet loss. When the SwOS comes out for these devices?
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Same problem, i hope @Mikrotik solve these problem.
Same thing for me....
@Mikrotik : no response since many days. What are you doing ?
I need another 48 Gb ports for a client, and I have choosen an Ubiquiti EdgeSwitch ES-48-LITE...
Seems like due to the coronavirus outbreak their support team is taking their sweet time to respond. Keep patience and I think they will fix everything
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:46 pm

hi, have you got any updates on this? I recently bought this switch due to its incredible price and I had some appliances running with swos in past.

I would like to run it as a simple switch in front of a router but somehow the network is not stable, I'm dealing with nat problems and tremendous connection issues.

What can I do? Im using a regular router I would like to extend.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:40 pm

Same problem here. We bought two switches of that type, both have massive packet loss. It seems that only ingress traffic is being dropped. Sometimes this condition lasts a couple of seconds causing 100000+ packets being lost. We installed the latest v6.47.2 (stable) but it does not seem to make any difference in a simple switched environment. We also found out that it might make a difference which ports are being used. On both switches the first 8 ports were worse than the other ones.

Running out of ideas ... now buying something else from a competitor.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:18 pm

Another bad news : with Zabbix via SNMP, the CPU is always at 100%.
Maybe that explain why we have lost packets ?

@Mikrotik : Can you solve this too ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:40 pm

Plain and simple.
THIS SUCKS.
I unknowingly borked a brand new switch out of the box. That has to be one of the very few times I've been dissapointed with TIK.
I was able to console in, net-boot, and recover, but lack of SWos is gonna be a deal breaker. With this number of ports I don't think ROS is gonna be manageable.
Any updates on when/if it will be supported?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:51 am

What problems with Router OS on this switch?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:40 am

well i think its safe to say that since its been almost a year and they havent even started on a solution, let alone a press release on it we have to assume they abandoned the project
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:35 pm

well i think its safe to say that since its been almost a year and they havent even started on a solution, let alone a press release on it we have to assume they abandoned the project
i hope you're wrong....
@Mikrotik : can you update this topic please ?
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:51 am

Is this still a haunting topic to MikroTik employees.. or maybe more appropriately, management? I have a CRS354-48P-2S+2Q+RM who's duties would be more suitable for Switch OS/SwOS.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Wed Dec 16, 2020 5:53 am

Edgars P.5 days ago 1:38 PM
Hello,

Thank you for contacting MikroTik Support.

The SwOS is still under development for the CRS354 switches and I cannot comment on the software availability.

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hi i just bough a MikroTik CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+RM only to find upon delivery that it does not support switch os. i see this has been an issue for almost a year now with no updates to the publi. is there an eta on switch os compatability, and if not my option is to return the item within 30 days of 12/1/2020.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:45 am

Edgars P.5 days ago 1:38 PM
Hello,

Thank you for contacting MikroTik Support.

The SwOS is still under development for the CRS354 switches and I cannot comment on the software availability.

Best regards,

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hi i just bough a MikroTik CRS354-48P-4S+2Q+RM only to find upon delivery that it does not support switch os. i see this has been an issue for almost a year now with no updates to the publi. is there an eta on switch os compatability, and if not my option is to return the item within 30 days of 12/1/2020.
Could you give us a yes or no as to whether or not SwOS will _ever_ come to the CRS354 line-up? Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:47 am

So this was mikrotiks responce so id have to say probably not. Its already been almost a year and they still cant give an eta so id say its not going to happen
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:56 am

That's a shame, as it's an extremely feature-rich set of hardware. Might have to look at Ubiq..
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:10 am

Thats exactly what i did. They didnt even respond till after i had already sent it back. I bought a udm-pro and im in love with it. Its a little bit different than pfsense but still super easy to get used to. And next week im buying the usw-pro-48-poe... its only $100 more and i know that like all ui stuff its just gonna work no questions asked
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:33 am

Well, I can't say I'll be ditching pfSense anytime soon, as I love the control I have with it, switch-wise I think I'd miss the 2QSFP+ ports this switch has on top of everything else.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:11 am

CRS354 SwOS is already in internal testing and we plan to have it ready for release in around one month (end of January). I'm sorry that the communication was kind of unclear.
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:40 am

That's great news! Thank you, Normis!
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:10 pm

CRS354 SwOS is already in internal testing and we plan to have it ready for release in around one month (end of January). I'm sorry that the communication was kind of unclear.
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Sat Dec 26, 2020 1:04 am

CRS354 SwOS is already in internal testing and we plan to have it ready for release in around one month (end of January). I'm sorry that the communication was kind of unclear.
Just buyet CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ , i`m looking forword.
 
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Re: SwOS on CRS354-48G-4S+2Q+ missing ?

Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:37 am

And how can I install SwOS to an already bought CRS354 when it will be ready?

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