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RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Hi,

When RouterOS v7 beta1 is gonna to be released?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:06 pm

we all are interested too
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:39 am

Same here....we are starting to think v7 is a unicorn :D
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:56 am

Same here....we are starting to think v7 is a unicorn :D
a magical unicorn ;)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:36 am

Be patient guys!
I'm sure they work on it but let's wait for their news.
Don't pus them, they should work without our pressure to make it good ^_^
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sun Jan 25, 2015 2:00 pm

I wish it was true. Experience says that we will need to betatest and request the connections during next two years after first stable release to get really working ros. Anyway I am looking forward.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:36 pm

Hello friends,

Someone had news about the V7 release date?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Feb 02, 2015 12:28 pm

As normis said here
Sometimes versions are released sooner if there is a critical issue that needs to be resolved. Sometimes we work on a bigger change, so version takes longer.

v7 is currently in internal testing, and will be released as beta when it's stable enough
So no exact date for us.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:08 pm

Mikrotik people never give dates as they are not able to fulfil any given date. Their official answer is "when it will be then it will be". Take it or leave it. I just live with that as with exogenous fact.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:45 pm

Mikrotik people never give dates as they are not able to fulfil any given date. Their official answer is "when it will be then it will be". Take it or leave it. I just live with that as with exogenous fact.
Really accurate and truthful description :)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:05 am

Mikrotik people never give dates as they are not able to fulfil any given date. Their official answer is "when it will be then it will be". Take it or leave it. I just live with that as with exogenous fact.
Really accurate and truthful description :)
It's better to not publish a deadline if it's not sure that it could be honored.

It's even better to release 7.0 beta 1 tomorrow! :-) :-)



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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:55 pm

Whats the point of a beta if you don't release it, beta's are meant to be unstable. Release the beta, and start getting broad input early.

Not like they're asking when v7 Final or even RC will be out but beta, for all we know there cud be 900 beta releases before rc1
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:30 am

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In that forum we don`t like smiles! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:12 am

We will release a beta, when it will exist. Currently v7 is in alpha stage, many functions are not completed and non functional. Beta needs at least all functions to be somewhat operational.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:10 am

Thanks normis, understood is their a timeline/roadmap for when you guys think you'll reach feature complete for beta? Or even a feature list for what your planning to implement, i mean right now all the forum seems to be is a wishlist.

Things like proper DHCPv6 with radius and other v6 stuff that don't match up with the v4 counterparts sort of are forcing some of us into chosing between investing in MT now for large deployments knowing that the v6 features are coming, and just going another way (cisco etc) which i personally would rather not do.
 
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fq_codel in 7.0?

Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:10 am

Have you got fq_codel working yet in 7.0?

I have done fq_codel backports (where needed) for several manufacturers at this point, and can help out - I also do things like BQL - and I would really like to get some performance numbers out of it + sqm-scripts on your higher end hardware, when your next version of the OS arrives.

We hit a pretty hard shaping limit on a lot of lower end gear at about 60Mbits of HTB, (the fq_codel part is nearly invisible to the cpu, but HTB, oh, my!), and the market, at least in the US, is migrating to 110Mbits of needed inbound shaping on comcast's deployment to cut inbound latencies from about 600ms to 10ms, under load.

I keep hoping to find an off-the shelf solution for my userbase that works as well as 110mbit as it does at 50mbit.

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Re: fq_codel in 7.0?

Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:06 am

Have you got fq_codel working yet in 7.0?
Hey -- you wrote one of the RFCs here! :P Awesome!


+1 for fq_codel. This is one of the ~only things significantly holding back our RouterOS userbase.

We have to significantly throttle bandwidth to preserve some highly interactive apps at peak throughput. fq_codel would be of *huge* benefit to us!
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:47 pm

I just wish MT was more open with the 7.0 development, i'm really silently praying that MUM March they start to announce some things. I mean even just a "what we have working so far" "whats we want to work" " what we plan to fix in 7" something...

I mean are we looking at mid-late 2015 or 2018 lol

There's a number of blockers that everyone's aware of,
1gigabit tcp stream limit due to it being non-threaded
DHCP RADIUS Accounting
fq_codel support
lldp support
ipv6 NAT64/DNS64/6rd/Radius... pretty much everything beyond the basic bare minimum :)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:15 pm

Would like to know as last post.. Mikrotik.. are we talking 4 weeks or 4 years?
Please lets us know any information..

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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:50 pm

I just wish MT was more open with the 7.0 development,
yes, PLEASE make RouterOS opensource or create quality SDK. I'll bet there are a lot of good programmers who can help make RouterOS better.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:57 pm

I just wish MT was more open with the 7.0 development,
yes, PLEASE make RouterOS opensource or create quality SDK. I'll bet there are a lot of good programmers who can help make RouterOS better.
I'm pretty sure that's not what cchance meant, and besides... It's totally not in MikroTik's interest to close down one of their two primary revenue streams (the other being RouterBoard devices).

The ability to create additional modules with some sort of an SDK would be nice though. I can already think of several scripting related features I could implement myself, if given such access (think commands and menus related to manipulating variable data; akin to ":pick", ":find", etc.).
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:35 pm

LOL ya poor wording on my part when i said "open" i didn't mean open source, i just meant more open with roadmap/featureplans/timelines for the beta.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:24 pm

2016 is up!
When?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:57 pm

looking forward to EU MUM 2016 :D
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:06 am

:-?
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:25 pm

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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:08 pm

Chupaka CU at the MUM ;)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:19 pm

Chupaka CU at the MUM ;)
seems like I won't be there :( I can't find affordable plane tickets from Minsk to Ljubljana. 500 euro is a bit expensive
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:26 pm

I heard they are releasing v7 beta second half of this year... :D
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:27 am

I heard they are releasing v7 beta second half of this year... :D
That are just rumors.
Nobody knows when exactly, even developers.
Lot of things are ready but they need to hunt unpredictable number of bugs before it can reach good enough to be shown.
Sadly they don't wish to publish any news on progress(not even asking for timeline, just bit of news how it goes).
Also they currently work on 6x branch too so they don't fully focus on 7x.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:55 am

But we like to hunt bugs in new firmwares! :)
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:08 am

I prefer ultra-stable 6.66
than new software to debug from 0

What 7.x can have than is impossible to get from 6.x ???
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:57 am

What 7.x can have than is impossible to get from 6.x ???
Several IPv6 features, at the current state iBGP for IPv6 is unusable.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:19 pm

What 7.x can have than is impossible to get from 6.x ???
Off the top of my head:

- New IPSEC with IKEv2 support
- Proper VRF support
- Ability for router services (WinBox, SSH, WebMin) to be available inside VRF's
- OSPFv3 recursive next-hop fixes
- MPLS Fast Re-Route
- Improved MPLS logging
- VPNv6 support
- MPLS label per VRF rather than per prefix
- ARP PVLAN Mode
- Route filtering improved speed and granularity
- Route processing improved speed
- BGP Route Reflector mode, e.g. Routes never enter the FIB.
- Ability to view route types other than IPv4/IPv6. e.g. VPNv4, VPNv6, L2VPN
- Ability to view advertised/received routes on BGP PE-CE sessions (inside a VRF)
- Routing filter action "Update Address List" which adds/removes matching prefixes from an address list
- VXLAN support
- IGMP Proxy
- VRF aware multicast routing
- 802.11ac Spectral-Scan
- Bridge filter action "FastTrack"
- Netflow contains AS info
- Support for a large number of LTE cards
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:44 pm

- Routing filter action "Update Address List" which adds/removes matching prefixes from an address list
oh my gosh! :shock: shut up and take my money!
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Missing on the list:

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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:26 pm

Missing on the list:

BGP MIB for SNMP
Community Filtering by Regex
Both have been promised and would be wonderful.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:37 pm

- Routing filter action "Update Address List" which adds/removes matching prefixes from an address list
oh my gosh! :shock: shut up and take my money!
+1 - then it would be easy to use an IP reputation vendor's BGP feed to automatically update an IP filter in real time.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:21 pm

What 7.x can have than is impossible to get from 6.x ???
Off the top of my head:

- New IPSEC with IKEv2 support
- Proper VRF support
- Ability for router services (WinBox, SSH, WebMin) to be available inside VRF's
- OSPFv3 recursive next-hop fixes
- MPLS Fast Re-Route
- Improved MPLS logging
- VPNv6 support
- MPLS label per VRF rather than per prefix
- ARP PVLAN Mode
- Route filtering improved speed and granularity
- Route processing improved speed
- BGP Route Reflector mode, e.g. Routes never enter the FIB.
- Ability to view route types other than IPv4/IPv6. e.g. VPNv4, VPNv6, L2VPN
- Ability to view advertised/received routes on BGP PE-CE sessions (inside a VRF)
- Routing filter action "Update Address List" which adds/removes matching prefixes from an address list
- VXLAN support
- IGMP Proxy
- VRF aware multicast routing
- 802.11ac Spectral-Scan
- Bridge filter action "FastTrack"
- Netflow contains AS info
- Support for a large number of LTE cards
And why that can not be done on 6.x?
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:16 am

I think the fact that 6.x uses an old Linux kernel is the main thing behind a lot of this.

Also, I think a major overhaul of the routing protocols is being done for ROSv7. For instance, it seems that currently, BGP pretty much uses the FIB to store its data, and juggles the active/inactive state of routes that it picks... as opposed to keeping a separate table for BGP and dumping the winning routes down into the FIB. I've come across a few oddities resulting from this behavior, and I think that they're probably redoing BGP to use its own table separate from the FIB, which makes me smile - but something like this probably requires quite an overhaul. Also, the fact that BGP can't multithread in the tile platform is pretty freakin' broken. I know lots of folks on here are chomping at the bit for a threaded BGP process that can benefit from more cores.

Hopefully IPv6 gets lots of love in ROSv7. I know lots of people here are dying to have a NAT table in IPv6 (and what a holy war THAT discussion is)
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:00 am

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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:08 am

How is there still no 7.0 news or alpha
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:20 am

How is there still no 7.0 news or alpha
Because 7.0 news or alpha are not ready, yet.
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:10 pm

+1 - then it would be easy to use an IP reputation vendor's BGP feed to automatically update an IP filter in real time.
That's a good idea!

There are many uses for this functionality.

We are planning to use it so we can advertise ranges with communities via ExaBGP to our Route Reflectors. Our Border Routers will then update address lists from the BGP communities and we can then queue traffic differently for each list.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:36 pm

And why that can not be done on 6.x?
I guess it can... but at a price of breaking something existing so severely so it is just logical to change version numbering from 6 to 7...

Actually, that's how software development is usually done overall. :)
 
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:03 pm

+1 - then it would be easy to use an IP reputation vendor's BGP feed to automatically update an IP filter in real time.
That's a good idea!

There are many uses for this functionality.

We are planning to use it so we can advertise ranges with communities via ExaBGP to our Route Reflectors. Our Border Routers will then update address lists from the BGP communities and we can then queue traffic differently for each list.
In fact, I was quite sure that "add prefix to address list" was already an option and I set out to implement this one day. I started to configure the route filters and was genuinely surprised when I didn't find this action - it seemed like such a simple but powerful way to distribute IP policy that OBVIOUSLY it was already in there, right?

I was also surprised when I couldn't find "next hop address" as a matcher....
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Tue May 24, 2016 8:18 pm

I think you should name it RouterOS 10 or RouterOS X already.( and implement UDP and LZO in ovpn) ;-)
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed May 25, 2016 11:40 am

I think you should name it RouterOS 10 or RouterOS X already.( and implement UDP and LZO in ovpn) ;-)
Mikrotik have already confirmed UDP support for OpenVPN is coming in RouterOS v7.
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed May 25, 2016 2:59 pm

Mikrotik have already confirmed UDP support for OpenVPN is coming in RouterOS v7.
The issue is not "what exciting features will v7 have" or "in which version will (some feature) be available".
The issue is "when will v7 be released as beta".
 
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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Wed May 25, 2016 5:32 pm

6.xx release candidates are not released daily anymore, could this be a sign that 7.0 is ready?

Cross your fingers and fasten your seatbelts.
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