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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:16 pm
by Takv
In fact, Mikrotik started as a software development company, and now, starting from 4 to 5 years ago, they have some kind of company secrecy around the upcoming major RouterOS software update, or they are just focusing in hardware development, forgeting they origins. Not in vane they have begun speaking about v7 version five years ago, or is it? So, the less they have to do is to incorporate the most old complains in the major update. We are talking about x86-x64 PC Image, the ethernet driver extense support and all related to ipv6 and bgp, also including the present and stable NV2 AC and Wave 2 support, at least. You have to just look, there is so many complains in the forums never ever solved...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:16 pm
by mfr476
No news about Ros 7?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:16 pm
by patrick7
never ever solved...
Don't worry. I'm sure it will be fixed with RouterOS v7

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:55 pm
by mada3k
I think there's a high risk that some architectures/platforms will be stuck on ROS v6 for flash-size and toolchain reasons. v7 will probably be ARM and x86_64 only, and will probably lack some features thats simply not portable (I guess MPLS- and tunnel stuff).

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:38 am
by nz_monkey
I think there's a high risk that some architectures/platforms will be stuck on ROS v6 for flash-size and toolchain reasons. v7 will probably be ARM and x86_64 only, and will probably lack some features thats simply not portable (I guess MPLS- and tunnel stuff).
This is my expectation as well.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:41 am
by rkj
Something I believe is missing from the feature requests I've read is network telemetry (https://blogs.cisco.com/developer/its-t ... -telemetry) ; SNMP should stand for "Scalability Not My Problem" in how hard it's to make a thousands elements service provider network manageable. My guess is that it would also ease up the CPU load of boxes when WinBox is connected to them.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:00 am
by vecernik87
re. network telemetry: Well, idea in theory is nice but I find monitoring through highly-abstract layer a bit suicidal. As long as it works, it will be great, but there are few points:

- it definitely won't ease up CPU load (because HTTPS is way more intensive on CPU and bandwidth than SNMP),

- if something goes wrong, it will be way harder to troubleshoot. Look at many network elements (including UBNT, DLINK, TPLINK, mikrotik's SwOS etc etc..) - the least reliable module of most devices is always the web interface/server. And now you want to run realtime monitoring via this module? cmon.

- even now, manufacturers are unable to properly implement universal OIDs in SNMP and too often they implement their own MIBs. I am desperately trying to monitor important devices in my companies through dude, but every manufacturer makes their own way of recording elements. No matter if we talk about printers (and remaining toner), no matter if we talk about UPS (and available capacity or output load). Do you really believe they will somehow magically work together and make this working? universally? nope, not gonna happen. In the best case we get many different proprietary implementations, one from each manufacturer, which won't be compatible. In the worst case, some manufacturers will come with different version for each of their brands and they won't work together.

edit: actually about the push/pull method... I am actually thinking that pull method might be more scalable than push method. Thing is, that with push method, all devices will keep pushing data to controller node. But what if the node becomes busy? or just overwhelmed because there are to many devices? With pull method, controller can easily schedule requests based on requirements - critical data can be polled every few seconds, less important data can be polled once a minute. More important devices can be scheduled more often, less important devices can be polled rarely. Or even if there is some critical task, controller can postpone polling of other things temporarily. See? this is the actual scalability based on controller's configuration.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:26 am
by MasterJames
Wow this is the biggest blunder in the history of the internet.
Such a shame since RouterOS is great except for this problem with IPv6 in general.
This should be open sourced before they go under. Really it's pretty much to late.

I say open source RouterOS 7+ now or die. Release it for the community to make it work. At least they will be able to try and do something.
As long as they get what they need working, other parts can be addressed over time, and not by waiting over 10 years <SHOCKING>.

This is so bad I think you are really left with corruption as the only explanation, (trying hard not to be paranoid) that and incompetency that is not being addressed.
Incompetency can be resolved. Retardation of an entire corporation is mind boggling. No one is at the wheel.

Or get some financing to hire as many experts (all on here waiting for a decade) to add what seems like a simple enough thing.

Can I install https://dd-wrt.com/ DD-WRT on this RB4011 paper weight? Will a refund on my new RB4011 send the right message or should I hope my loses will help support a company that has passed the point of no return, and think maybe it will be usable in a few years,

If we get some kind of source we can replace or another company can maybe take charge. Can this be given to apache.org or something?
How can we as a community get Mikrotik to allow us to take the wheel and get shyt done!? Can we start a class action lawsuit? I'll sign it, I have losses due to negligence. We need to decentralize people. For the Grid with Arduinos or similar (I'm for WiFi GPUs in light-bulbs?).
A boycott? A petition? anything. Something to through a stone at maybe?

Okay so what's my alternative Cisco? Does their GUI need Java so lame or lamer are my two choices. Bummer. "It's mi way or the Huawei." [ No there out too. ]

I know this sounds like a rant but it feels like I'm drowning. So desperate to find real solutions. Best one I can think of would be to open source RouterOS.

Is this link below anything, a download archive of binaries or what? Is there a Git Repo for RouterOS. Who can explain why that is not possible? If not, I think I'm done, because 5 years ago was the time to act on this idea. It's really too late for even that. Just stop fixing ROSv6 it's dead without IPv6. Divert all resources to release even a borken alpha as soon as possible.

https://github.com/robimarko/routeros-GPL

I've burned uncountable hour$ smeared over a number of months tracking down this horrible truth about RouterOS' grievous incompetency. It makes me & us look bad and has jeopardised many other companies with similar pointless losses too. [ It's no longer worth my time to pursue this route. ]

Okay so it's too bad it does not even make coffee but it probably has enough juice for that.
If Mikrotik sold to Google, Google would conclude to do the right thing and shut it down in about 9 days (a current statistical fact about google these days see Google+ etc.).

Can I get on a mailing list for when ROS7 is available just so in another 10 years I can have a good laugh?

Okay now I go get a couple of boxes of paper towels for my tears I'm drowning in.

My final thought to share is that we could have a mass burial. This idea will create a release deadline so on Bury Your Mikrotik Day say April 1st 2020 (joke is on us), we all just say a final goodbye together to a tragic death of a good friend, cut down in it's prime by what is best defined a stupid senseless crime against humanity.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:09 am
by Sob
Interesting find, that repository. A 12MB, 400k lines kernel patch, it looks like good explanation why it's not easy to just swap kernel for newer one.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:00 am
by anav
Wow this is the biggest blunder in the history of the internet.
Such a shame since RouterOS is great except for this problem with IPv6 in general.
This should be open sourced before they go under. Really it's pretty much to late.

I say open source RouterOS 7+ now or die. Release it for the community to make it work. At least they will be able to try and do something.
As long as they get what they need working, other parts can be addressed over time, and not by waiting over 10 years <SHOCKING>.

This is so bad I think you are really left with corruption as the only explanation, (trying hard not to be paranoid) that and incompetency that is not being addressed.
Incompetency can be resolved. Retardation of an entire corporation is mind boggling. No one is at the wheel.

Or get some financing to hire as many experts (all on here waiting for a decade) to add what seems like a simple enough thing.

Can I install https://dd-wrt.com/ DD-WRT on this RB4011 paper weight? Will a refund on my new RB4011 send the right message or should I hope my loses will help support a company that has passed the point of no return, and think maybe it will be usable in a few years,

If we get some kind of source we can replace or another company can maybe take charge. Can this be given to apache.org or something?
How can we as a community get Mikrotik to allow us to take the wheel and get shyt done!? Can we start a class action lawsuit? I'll sign it, I have losses due to negligence. We need to decentralize people. For the Grid with Arduinos or similar (I'm for WiFi GPUs in light-bulbs?).
A boycott? A petition? anything. Something to through a stone at maybe?

Okay so what's my alternative Cisco? Does their GUI need Java so lame or lamer are my two choices. Bummer. "It's mi way or the Huawei." [ No there out too. ]

I know this sounds like a rant but it feels like I'm drowning. So desperate to find real solutions. Best one I can think of would be to open source RouterOS.

Is this link below anything, a download archive of binaries or what? Is there a Git Repo for RouterOS. Who can explain why that is not possible? If not, I think I'm done, because 5 years ago was the time to act on this idea. It's really too late for even that. Just stop fixing ROSv6 it's dead without IPv6. Divert all resources to release even a borken alpha as soon as possible.

https://github.com/robimarko/routeros-GPL

I've burned uncountable hour$ smeared over a number of months tracking down this horrible truth about RouterOS' grievous incompetency. It makes me & us look bad and has jeopardised many other companies with similar pointless losses too. [ It's no longer worth my time to pursue this route. ]

Okay so it's too bad it does not even make coffee but it probably has enough juice for that.
If Mikrotik sold to Google, Google would conclude to do the right thing and shut it down in about 9 days (a current statistical fact about google these days see Google+ etc.).

Can I get on a mailing list for when ROS7 is available just so in another 10 years I can have a good laugh?

Okay now I go get a couple of boxes of paper towels for my tears I'm drowning in.

My final thought to share is that we could have a mass burial. This idea will create a release deadline so on Bury Your Mikrotik Day say April 1st 2020 (joke is on us), we all just say a final goodbye together to a tragic death of a good friend, cut down in it's prime by what is best defined a stupid senseless crime against humanity.
No worries, mate, just ship all your latest MT products to me I will take them off your hands and will pay shipping LOL. In Nova Scotia, we help you part with those things that are stressing you out. Its the least we can do. Things are so chill here. :-)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:42 am
by Omniflux

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta99 - released.

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:11 am
by Jotne
From the video:
7.00beta99 so long past beta1 as the title asks for :)

7.00Beta99.jpg

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta99 - released.

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:28 am
by mkx
From the video:
7.00beta99 so long past beta1 as the title asks for :)
Perhaps MT is counting down ... so next beta from the one shown in video (probably not current any more as @Normis hinted) was beta98 ... and so forth. So v7 will be released to public when count-down reaches beta1 :wink:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:06 am
by normis
Arent jokes funnier if not published 4 days late?

P.S: this CGI business is getting out of hand

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta99 - released.

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:16 pm
by macgaiver
From the video:
7.00beta99 so long past beta1 as the title asks for :)
Perhaps MT is counting down ... so next beta from the one shown in video (probably not current any more as @Normis hinted) was beta98 ... and so forth. So v7 will be released to public when count-down reaches beta1 :wink:
I have seen v6.99, when MT is working on the fix/debugging of some crash fixed on our routers

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:55 pm
by schadom

@normis can you confirm the authenticity of this video? if real, this would be very nice!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:33 pm
by Chupaka
viewtopic.php?p=725088#p725088 — isn't that about authenticity? :)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:20 pm
by schadom
viewtopic.php?p=725088#p725088 — isn't that about authenticity? :)

dude, honestly i'm not here for the lulz. we work with business customers and we expect clear statements from MT so that we can plan our next hardware purchases.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:56 pm
by connorgoodwolf
dude, honestly i'm not here for the lulz. we work with business customers and we expect clear statements from MT so that we can plan our next hardware purchases.
I can't imagine what Mikrotik stock would be like if they were public. The stock would be more volatile than TSLA based on public statements.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:57 pm
by anthonws
viewtopic.php?p=725088#p725088 — isn't that about authenticity? :)

dude, honestly i'm not here for the lulz. we work with business customers and we expect clear statements from MT so that we can plan our next hardware purchases.
I think the plan is very clear if you're dealing with Enterprise customers. The "It's ready when it's ready" statement says it all :)

Me, as a consumer, I honestly couldn't care less. Sure, I'm unhappy for not having a couple of cool features, but my investment until now has been very low and I don't mind replacing everything tomorrow for something else that fulfill my needs.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:50 am
by connorgoodwolf
I don't mind replacing everything tomorrow for something else that fulfill my needs.
Unfortunately some of us are in such a scenario where we must decide to work on a custom firmware solution for Routerboard devices or spend the money replacing all Mikrotik hardware.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:44 pm
by pe1chl
The "It's ready when it's ready" statement says it all :)
I fully agree. "It's ready when it's ready" is what a hobbyist writes. Or a beginner.
A professional developer has a plan and a schedule, and can explain overruns of the schedule.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:04 pm
by maara
This "It's ready when it's ready" approach is something that shouldn't be part of your PR if you are an enterprise company. If so, then your management is seriously lacking.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:52 pm
by Chupaka
This "It's ready when it's ready" approach is something that shouldn't be part of your PR if you are an enterprise company. If so, then your management is seriously lacking.
Just like Google, btw.
" - When are you planning to release that feature for Google Cloud?
- When it's ready, no ETA (c)
- <working hard to implement the feature in a self-hosted way>
- <in 2 month they release it>
- F*ck! Are you kidding? We could wait for those 2 month instead of doing a ton of sh*tty work!"

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:54 pm
by maara
Just like Google, btw.
Agree, yet Google is not selling any enterprise HW products and no customers are planning any new infra deployments based on their hw etc...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:15 pm
by mkx
Just like Google, btw.
Agree, yet Google is not selling any enterprise HW products and no customers are planning any new infra deployments based on their hw etc...
HW products by Mikrotik are mostly fine. It's mostly software which makes us sometimes unhappy. ROS7 is, after all, software which will, hopefully, run on our existing HW. All in all, this is not that far from what we expect from google ... only that for google's services you most of times pay with personal data and for Mikrotik's services you pay with hard cash and electricity ... and receive back some heat (you can't say that about google's services).

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:33 pm
by tesme33
Independantly when R7 comes , in the toolchain of Melanox it is stated that they use kernal 3.10.104 which was released 21.10.2016.
Mmmh this is really long time back. A lot of improovements have been implemented since then and i doubt that MT has the capacity to get all these benefits backported.
So which kernel will we get ? And Is this good or bad ?

http://www.mellanox.com/repository/solutions/tile-scm/

How this looks like for the other processors i didnt check. But at least the tile will get the new OS with hope of a better parallel CPU usage.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:25 pm
by Chupaka
only that for google's services you most of times pay with personal data and for Mikrotik's services you pay with hard cash and electricity ...
I was talking about Google Cloud Services. You pay for it in cash also :)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:34 pm
by mkx
only that for google's services you most of times pay with personal data and for Mikrotik's services you pay with hard cash and electricity ...
I was talking about Google Cloud Services. You pay for it in cash also :)
Well that sounds better (but still no heat in exchange I guess). Unlike majority of inhabitants of Earth I value my own personal data and choose to pay with cash ... it's much easier to decide if something is worth the price or not ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:49 pm
by mfr476
Mikrotik have a Big problem with costumers and product.... Forun Gurú not improve the result

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:18 pm
by irukandji
Such a shame since RouterOS is great except for this problem with IPv6 in general.
Omg, just ordered rb4011 and I thought something is seriously wrong. :lol:

IPv6? I didnt notice any lack of IPv4 addresses yet, so I wouldnt bother too much... Just relax.

(anyway until I am forced by ISP to use IPv6 and I wont have any chance to switch to some other, I will keep it turned off to keep my sanity)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:05 pm
by mfr476
Wireless ac improvement It is other Big problem...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:26 pm
by PtDragon
Guys, we have a lot to progress to, current kernel is 5.X.
That is cool that we have 7.x in development.
But still, even if it becomes a tradition that MikroTik programmers dislike - please post a bit about your progress every month(just some things you remember in 5 minutes, no need for full details).
Surely one of programmers can sacrifice 5-10 minutes of time every month to keep people informed. 10 minutes is a full maximum to tell changes you are working at.
Really, we know too few for now, i know it can be embarassing if you show something on 5.x kernel tat does not even have enough features.
But still it will be a small window thru which we can see a small bit of your hard work.
Yeah, you have own code, you have own repositories, that's okay, just give small bits of info on what you are working so we can objectively see you do some work(because after some years with no information many people start to doubt you do anything on v7 branch).
Please, i really wish to hope for myself and for some of my clients that you will do 7.x branch with better(more even) load sharing between the cores.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:18 pm
by mfr476
+1 Great idea¡¡¡¡¡ no timelines but we know the progress.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:17 am
by Steveocee
Great idea but can’t see it happening.
Do Apple give updates on what their design and software team are working on?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 10:16 am
by pe1chl
I asked about it at the Amsterdam MUM.
(actually I asked when we would get more IPv6 features, the reply was "in v7" as usual, then I wondered if we would ever get that)

The reply was "certainly before the end of the year".
Of course, it wasn't mentioned "which year" :-)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 4:40 pm
by mfr476
A lot of days without New firmware... Is It a Ros 7 signal?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 5:15 pm
by anthonws
A lot of days without New firmware... Is It a Ros 7 signal?
No. It's just a signal of no signal. Typical around these corners...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:07 pm
by buset1974
A lot of days without New firmware... Is It a Ros 7 signal?
not yet

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:27 pm
by mfr476
When? In a long future?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:11 pm
by Sob
It's getting closer every day! ;)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:04 am
by anthonws
It's getting closer every day! ;)
What an awesome slogan for Mikrotik!

"Trust in Mikrotik! What you're waiting for is getting closer every day!" TM

Microsoft tried patenting that for Windows Phone/Mobile, but Mikrotik got there first ;)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:17 am
by pe1chl
"Trust in Mikrotik! What you're waiting for is getting closer every day!" TM

Microsoft tried patenting that for Windows Phone/Mobile, but Mikrotik got there first ;)
Don't use that example, we all hope that it will not be vaporware like Windows Phone...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:04 pm
by mkx
we all hope that it will not be vaporware like Windows Phone...
Windows Phone was not vaporware, it was real ... shit. And that's why it disappeared real soon ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 1:15 pm
by pe1chl
Windows Phone was not vaporware, it was real ... shit. And that's why it disappeared real soon ...
Well, it really showed that Microsoft thrives only on existing installed base.
In a "new market", it really stands no chance against the competition.
However, what I meant is that the platform has almost (and also completely) disappeared many times, with the proponents clinging onto a promised new version time after time.
And every time it failed to deliver. We would not want that same thing happen to RouterOS...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:20 am
by anthonws
Windows Phone was not vaporware, it was real ... shit. And that's why it disappeared real soon ...
Well, it really showed that Microsoft thrives only on existing installed base.
In a "new market", it really stands no chance against the competition.
However, what I meant is that the platform has almost (and also completely) disappeared many times, with the proponents clinging onto a promised new version time after time.
And every time it failed to deliver. We would not want that same thing happen to RouterOS...
Indeed we don't want to see the same thing happen to RouterOS.

But I'm sure ROS 7 is going to be the savior, just like Windows 10 Mobile was :P heheheheh

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 8:34 am
by mfr476
The worst of this situation in mikrotik silence

I Hope that wisp have future in a fiber world

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:09 pm
by normis
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 1:15 pm
by Keyko
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.

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Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm
by mkx
@Keyko, hold on there on the tree trunk, don't fall down! ;-)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:20 pm
by anthonws
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
Thanks for the feedback @normis! It sure adds a bit more of clarity, although there's no rough timelines.

But definitely an improvement over the "it's ready when it's ready". And for that I congratulate Mikrotik.

Cheers,
anthonws.

p.s. Now, before everyone get's super hyped and expects a release next month...Personally, and by experience in the software engineering industry, I don't expect any betas before EOCY 2019 or Q1 2020.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:28 pm
by vecernik87
Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
@normis: so in another words, the easier parts are done and now we are just couple of decades from release?
(nah, don't get offended. I really, really appreciate everything you do as long as you don't lie to us or keep silent about security)

@keyko: hold on mate! You don't have right to use this meme unless you are realy Aussie :lol:
(I would post a selfie with his cuddlish bear but mommy told me to not show myself over the internet)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:31 pm
by jarda
This is the day we were looking for. If there are any memorable dates in the Mikrotikls history, don't forget to add this day to it.

Now the question is: When we will be able to install the first public version?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:48 pm
by Paternot
This is the day we were looking for. If there are any memorable dates in the Mikrotikls history, don't forget to add this day to it.

Now the question is: When we will be able to install the first public version?
When it's released. :D

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:04 pm
by pe1chl
p.s. Now, before everyone get's super hyped and expects a release next month...Personally, and by experience in the software engineering industry, I don't expect any betas before EOCY 2019 or Q1 2020.
I was at a MUM recently and they said we could expect "stable" RouterOS 7 release before the end of the year.
However, I should add that it was not mentioned WHICH year that was!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:37 pm
by krisjanisj
p.s. Now, before everyone get's super hyped and expects a release next month...Personally, and by experience in the software engineering industry, I don't expect any betas before EOCY 2019 or Q1 2020.
I was at a MUM recently and they said we could expect "stable" RouterOS 7 release before the end of the year.
However, I should add that it was not mentioned WHICH year that was!
Already answered here!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:39 pm
by mfr476
Lite to Lite. Please Normis tell us when mikrotik improve ros7. In the Internet world speed and ping is all

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:58 pm
by pe1chl
I was at a MUM recently and they said we could expect "stable" RouterOS 7 release before the end of the year.
However, I should add that it was not mentioned WHICH year that was!
Already answered here!
The problem is that this only mentions beta versions.
I do require more IPv6 functionality (like policy routing, hopefully also NAT66) somewhat urgently for a production environment, not really the place to run early beta versions.
Best would be when that appeared in v6 but as I understood, no more work is being done on IPv6 in RouterOS v6.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:00 pm
by anthonws
p.s. Now, before everyone get's super hyped and expects a release next month...Personally, and by experience in the software engineering industry, I don't expect any betas before EOCY 2019 or Q1 2020.
I was at a MUM recently and they said we could expect "stable" RouterOS 7 release before the end of the year.
However, I should add that it was not mentioned WHICH year that was!
Already answered here!
Thanks for sharing that! Like I estimated. EOCY or Q1 2020.

Edit: A stable release should be in the schedule for Q3/Q4 2020.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:12 pm
by krisjanisj
The problem is that this only mentions beta versions.
I do require more IPv6 functionality (like policy routing, hopefully also NAT66) somewhat urgently for a production environment, not really the place to run early beta versions.
Best would be when that appeared in v6 but as I understood, no more work is being done on IPv6 in RouterOS v6.
That is not true. Work on v6 development still continues while v7 is being developed.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:23 pm
by pe1chl
The problem is that this only mentions beta versions.
I do require more IPv6 functionality (like policy routing, hopefully also NAT66) somewhat urgently for a production environment, not really the place to run early beta versions.
Best would be when that appeared in v6 but as I understood, no more work is being done on IPv6 in RouterOS v6.
That is not true. Work on v6 development still continues while v7 is being developed.
But not on IPv6 within v6, as far as I understood. IPv6 is (as a whole) apparently a lower priority than IPv4 within RouterOS.
There are long outstanding open requests to complete the functionality of IPv6 but they are either ignored, or answered with "this will be done in v7".
So it looks like we need to wait for v7 to get more complete IPv6 support.
(there are topics which describe what is wanted in this regard, but for me it comes down to being able to support more than one ISP link, each with their own /48 assignment, in a single router)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:23 am
by mfr476
Any news about ROS v7 in hungary MUM?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:18 pm
by Pénzi
Any news about ROS v7 in hungary MUM?
Nothing

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm
by mistry7
We droped Mikrotik out of our Core, IPV6 is needed more Then Ever, we will obtain last avaible IPv4 address in the Next 3-4 Month, and Then we need to start CGN NAT

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:56 pm
by Jotne
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
Can you give some information on what kernel it will be using 4.x or 5.x?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:10 am
by mistry7
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
Can you give some information on what kernel it will be using 4.x or 5.x?
4.xx

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:33 am
by pe1chl
One could hope that after this experience MikroTik tries to limit the number of kernel patches and/or keeps an eye on kernel development and regularly updates the kernel patches so it becomes possible to change kernel revision in a minor v7 revision (e.g. 7.0.x to 7.1.x).
If not, it will not take long or everyone will be asking for RouterOS v8 because a newer kernel is required for the features they want.
(and this whole story repeats)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:49 am
by mfr476
Today we have a New mum. I Hope any news about Ros v7 or any improvement in router

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:11 pm
by pe1chl
Today we have a New mum. I Hope any news about Ros v7 or any improvement in router
I recently visited a MUM and there was no mention in the opening announcement, but the people at the MikroTik desk said "it will certainly be released before the end of the year".
They did not mention WHICH year.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:15 pm
by krisjanisj
Today we have a New mum. I Hope any news about Ros v7 or any improvement in router
I recently visited a MUM and there was no mention in the opening announcement, but the people at the MikroTik desk said "it will certainly be released before the end of the year".
They did not mention WHICH year.
=================================================================================================================
As @Normis answered previously:
All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:20 pm
by mfr476
This year @krisjanisj?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:10 pm
by enzain
This video fake or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbfKplzda7I


And yes - we all waiting for v7 betas

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:34 am
by mfr476
It isnt a fake. It is real but we don't have beta...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:52 pm
by mfr476
Please said us anything about rosv7 progress.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:31 pm
by troybowman
I do require more IPv6 functionality (like policy routing, hopefully also NAT66) somewhat urgently for a production environment, not really the place to run early beta versions.
Best would be when that appeared in v6 but as I understood, no more work is being done on IPv6 in RouterOS v6.
That is not true. Work on v6 development still continues while v7 is being developed.

Are you implying that RFC6296 NAT66 and IPv6 policy routing is coming soon, then? It would be great to see it on some kind of product development roadmap!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:00 pm
by enzain
Are you implying that RFC6296 NAT66 and IPv6 policy routing is coming soon, then? It would be great to see it on some kind of product development roadmap!
I more need netmap66 - in IPv6 is more actually

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:06 pm
by connorgoodwolf
It isnt a fake. It is real but we don't have beta...
It's fake, even one of the Mikrotik support personnel joked about the video. Someone was using a custom program to jest with us all.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:21 pm
by mfr476
Another security problem because mikrotik use old kernel....

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:52 pm
by mrz
If you are talking about SACK panic, then all Linux version starting from 2.6.29 are affected.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:40 pm
by Chupaka
from 2.6.29
old kernel....
=)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:07 pm
by Sonnix
If you are talking about SACK panic, then all Linux version starting from 2.6.29 are affected.
It was fixed in 5.1.11 and even that kernel can be considered old now. The current version is 5.1.15 right now.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:01 pm
by mrz
Right ... 5.1.11 released 17 Jun 2019 ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:54 pm
by Chupaka
Right ... 5.1.11 released 17 Jun 2019 ...
It's even not this month! Way too old!!!!111oneone

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:28 am
by cmurrayis
When? please an update - we are in so much pain with the existing 1072's and really don't want to replace them all if we don't need to!

Or at least open up a version of CHR for ISO install with Intel drivers...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:05 pm
by mfr476
That problem is as old as the promise of the v7 @chupaka hahahaha. what a great joke!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:20 pm
by whiteghost12
When? please an update - we are in so much pain with the existing 1072's and really don't want to replace them all if we don't need to!

Or at least open up a version of CHR for ISO install with Intel drivers...
when it's 1072 with ROS 7 becomes useless. why do we need beta for some devices in the end of this year.... may be. Now mainline kernel 5.2 . The kernel in nonexistent ROS 7 is outdated yet now.time to ask when it comes router os 8 with 5.x.x kernel?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:11 pm
by anthonws
When? please an update - we are in so much pain with the existing 1072's and really don't want to replace them all if we don't need to!

Or at least open up a version of CHR for ISO install with Intel drivers...
when it's 1072 with ROS 7 becomes useless. why do we need beta for some devices in the end of this year.... may be. Now mainline kernel 5.2 . The kernel in nonexistent ROS 7 is outdated yet now.time to ask when it comes router os 8 with 5.x.x kernel?
LOLOL! I'm not sure man kind will be around for a Router OS version 8 :P

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:45 am
by leoktv
When? please an update - we are in so much pain with the existing 1072's and really don't want to replace them all if we don't need to!

Or at least open up a version of CHR for ISO install with Intel drivers...
when it's 1072 with ROS 7 becomes useless. why do we need beta for some devices in the end of this year.... may be. Now mainline kernel 5.2 . The kernel in nonexistent ROS 7 is outdated yet now.time to ask when it comes router os 8 with 5.x.x kernel?
LOLOL! I'm not sure man kind will be around for a Router OS version 8 :P
It is not version 8 it is Buterfly version X

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:52 am
by Chupaka
RouterOS v7 is almost there, just need to add some components...


photo_2019-07-17_11-51-35.jpg

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:02 pm
by Jotne
LOL

:mrgreen:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:35 pm
by connorgoodwolf
RouterOS v7 is almost there, just need to add some components...
photo_2019-07-17_11-51-35.jpg
Please remember to add Duke Nukem Forever

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:22 pm
by honzam
RouterOS v7 is almost there, just need to add some components..
Can it run on rb411 or need a more powerful 4 core processor? :-)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:30 pm
by mrz
Will not run, you need one core per pixel.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:18 pm
by mkx
Will not run, you need one core per pixel.
Image

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:58 pm
by honzam
Will not run, you need one core per pixel.
CCR1072 seems to be weak :-(

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:19 pm
by Paternot
RouterOS v7 is almost there, just need to add some components...



photo_2019-07-17_11-51-35.jpg
But will it run Crysis?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:48 pm
by mfr476
chupaka I hope the games, at least, work well hehehe

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:51 pm
by Sob
Well, they will be re-implemented by MikroTik from scratch, so few tiny details could be different from what you're used to. Like all machine guns being single-shot only, and there will be no health packs. But other than that, fully compatible with originals.

;)

IPv6 ready?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:48 pm
by muetzekoeln
Will ROS v7 sport a IPv6-Ready logo from the beginning?

https://www.ipv6ready.org

Re: IPv6 ready?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:14 pm
by Chupaka
Will ROS v7 sport a IPv6-Ready logo from the beginning?
ROS v7 is IPv6-Ready. Then it will become IPv6-Steady, and finally IPv6-Go!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:48 pm
by arsalansiddiqui
Please add support for:
1) multiple router-board cluster like environment
2) a button to clear logs
3) in detail debugging report for pppoe and radius
4) child/parent queue via freeradius example: 1mb-1 is parent and user1mb-1 and user1mb-2 is child then 1mb-2 is parent and user1mb-3 and user1mb-4 is child
5) make dns more stable
6) remove limit on dns
7) do some optimization on cpu load

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:06 pm
by Chupaka
Wrong topic, I believe. Feature requests are here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=81674

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:58 pm
by mfr476
Another one time... When chupaca... When can we use ROS v7?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:00 pm
by mkx
Another one time... When chupaca... When can we use ROS v7?
We won't use ROS v7, ROS v7 will use us ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:46 pm
by mfr476
have you finished ros v7 games or are you working on nv3?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 am
by espacioint
The real cuestion is..
Are u working?
Because this is something with more than 5 years of history...and no news..
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
I undertand the politic of low prices.. but you are going to low quality too...
I have no ptp right now with mikrotik (I removed all).
Im in the same direction with ptmp.. if u don't do nothing to improve it.
Finnaly u are going to sale only CCRs.

With Mimosa with same prices u can get a link (ptp) 4 times faster that netmetal..

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:34 am
by connorgoodwolf
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
Mikrotik is unfortunately now the Netware of networking products. Your decision to switch to Mikrotik was a mistake, they'll seriously lagging behind in standards, features and are still running an old linux kernel.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:59 am
by cmurrayis
Are we there yet?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:01 pm
by espacioint
I have migrated my network to mikrotik from ubiquity and im not so sure about this desicion.
Mikrotik is unfortunately now the Netware of networking products. Your decision to switch to Mikrotik was a mistake, they'll seriously lagging behind in standards, features and are still running an old linux kernel.
Unfortunately you are right.. It was a mistake, There are many people here in spain removing mikrotik devices and switching to ubiquiti, it is sad because i like mikrotik but I fell as they dont worry about they clients...
Im really disappointed.
I waste a lot of money on mikrotik and they dont worry about us...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:27 pm
by mistry7
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:33 pm
by anuser
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
-
MikroTik actually released the updated 802.11ac drivers (without a fix for the 4011, though):
-
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145047&p=741741&hilit=wave#p741741
What is the current status of wave 2 features in Mikrotik wireless drivers?
Most of the features are implemented, but MU-MIMO is WIP
-
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=145047&p=741741&hilit=wave#p742097
which featues are missing now? we already released the driver update in last betas.
160MHz works, like Reinis said, only MU-MIMO is not implemented as the only remaining Wave2 feature.
-
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=149910#p741302
Version 6.46beta16 has been released.
*) wireless - improved 802.11ac stability for all ARM devices with wireless;
*) wireless - improved U-APSD (WMM Power Save) support for 802.11e;

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:54 pm
by pe1chl
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
Oh but competitors (in the same price segment) have their problems as well... Fast roaming not working right, multicast filtering an all-or-nothing selection only, unusable "optimization" features that lock out a percentage of devices due to incompatibility, etc.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:48 pm
by mfr476
don't worry that ros7 will solve it. It will also end hunger in the world.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:04 pm
by mistry7
And here Comes 802.11ax embedded boards like Mikrotik Rb.....

https://compex.com.sg/shop/embedded-board/wpq872/

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:28 am
by mistry7
Are we there yet?
Yes we Are, the Home-Brew Drivers they do, Are 50-70% behind real Performance in PTP and PtmP, new Features, not Seen , real issue with every new chipset (arm Nv2 issue for more than 12 Month), 4011 Turms of 5ghz, don’t work with more than 80 mhz, mu-Mimo (we possible See This when competiors have 802.11ax on market)

This Mikrotik Wireless, a dead-end
Oh but competitors (in the same price segment) have their problems as well... Fast roaming not working right, multicast filtering an all-or-nothing selection only, unusable "optimization" features that lock out a percentage of devices due to incompatibility, etc.
shure, but other vendors have a way in the right direction, there HQ and LQ Products everything for the right Place
But we have no time to wait for Future releases to come up to competitors speed, and they are near to release next hardware step
and then the next MikroTik Driver disaster comes.
We have only a hand full p2P MikroTik links left, and if something not working probably, i don´t care anymore, we
just exchange the link with something other and double or tripple the speed.
We are lucky and used much of RF-Elements Dishes, so it is really easy to exchange hardware.

And take a look at this more then 12 month old post:

Wave 1 Missings:
- Output Power Managment
- Spectral Scan
- Channel sizes

Wave 2 Missings:
- no wave 2 features available

What’s about 802.11k, 802.11r and 802.11v, we need that in the EU for every Wireless Network in
Government Places / Meeting Rooms etc
There is so much missing.....
At this Moment MikroTik has only one future, selling low cost in mass to world regions, where this features are enough.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:10 pm
by Steveocee
Forget v7.

v8 Needs to be rounded on. Use off the shelf drivers, get it out there, give the people what they want.

(I'll stick to my v6 though as it does almost everything I need).

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:37 am
by NetWorker
I just want to let everyone know, that v7 is progressing pretty good this year, and most core functionality is usable. Some more difficult parts need to be done and we can release a public beta.
Koala Pic
ROFL Keyko, you made my day.

To be honest I too have been waiting on a few v7 features but have more or less accepted the "it'll be ready when it's ready" by just looking at the chagelogs and the sticky's. Today I decided to check out the forums to see if there's a hint of release date. But I was *shocked* by the name calling, folks saying they need this and that and Mikrotik is irresponsable and they should do this and that. W T F guys!?!?!?!?!? You say "mikrotik couldn't be less transparent" yet they not only have this forum, normis has to take all kinds of crap from you and responds the best way he can a least once a page. Do you guys do this too with Volkswagen or with your government? Do you write to the president too about everything that's wrong in the world? How did that work out? He replied right away didn't he?

I find Mikrotik has grown a lot over these past 5 years and while many of you question their management decisions, I still think they've been doing well for themselves. Though I agree with @nz_monkey with his "hero car" post that RouterOS is what it's all built on and taking into account that the CCR is, well, at the core of their and our business can't be neglected.

Speaking of which, I understand that many of you have to project infrastructure and future hardware acquisitions but the simple fact of life is that you buy gear that covers your needs, not gear that MAY work in the future nor buy a 299 piece of gear and then ask the manufacturer to make it work someway you want it to.

Regarding Mikrotik wireless gear, we have never bought any (not in qunatity anyway) because we always found the competition to be superior. Always tested before placing big orders, never chose brand over functionality.

Finally, a word on marketing. I've seen many of you bring up Apple. I find the marketing strategy of Apple to be made by experts... for idiots. They build up hype, they launch products on a stage in front of hundreds of crazed fanatics and then charge a fortune for a product that's the definition of programmed obsolescence. RouterOS v7 works for me. It comes after 6. Yes it's been 5 years in the making but so have other thousands of products. And the difference with those that did indeed need a name change is that this one is designed for IT pros. We work with numbers every day and can handle something called v7.12.rc7 instead of "Vista", "2019" or "skip two numbers because we need to emphasize how much different it is from the one before".

My opinion of course.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 5:48 am
by connorgoodwolf
I find Mikrotik has grown a lot over these past 5 years and while many of you question their management decisions, I still think they've been doing well for themselves. Though I agree with @nz_monkey with his "hero car" post that RouterOS is what it's all built on and taking into account that the CCR is, well, at the core of their and our business can't be neglected.
Thanks, I needed a laugh. If you shilled any harder I would've fell on to the floor laughing.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:57 am
by normis
"Are we working?", well, not much else I can give you, maybe this gives some hope
Screenshot 2019-08-22 at 07.56.29.png
Also, this video is real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbfKplzda7I

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:13 am
by Jotne
Good to see that the video posted is real.

In the video its mention beta99 3 Apr 2019
Your post shows alpha220 14 Aug 2019
Maybe you are going backwards :)

We are waiting and looking forward to testing this new version :mrgreen:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:27 am
by normis
In the video, a special build was used, with a fake version name. This build was made for a MUM special event.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:33 am
by mkx
Maybe you are going backwards :)

Seems like that indeed :wink:

I certainly hope that folders from @Normis' screenshot are created in advance and that 7.0alpha219 was empty at the time ... which would mean that there are 219 alpha releases to go before we get some public RC :mrgreen:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:50 pm
by mfr476
ros v7 brings improvements in wireless?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:46 pm
by NetWorker
Thanks, I needed a laugh. If you shilled any harder I would've fell on to the floor laughing.
Hey, I'm all for smiles and grins but after looking up shill in the dictionary I can honestly say that that wasn't the intention of my post. Yes, I posted in a "take it or leave it" sorta way but not for their sake; for ours. Mikrotik routers sit at the core of our network but we are not in the ISP businness and we're still on 100% IPv4 so we don't have a major grief like you guys do with BGP, etc. We'd be looking elsewhere if it ever came to that, instead of buying CCRs and then whining in a forum. As we did with our wireless gear and switches (none are Mikrotik).

My way of telling people that I don't like their crap is I don't buy it. Ok, I'm not perfect, we did buy stuff and have been disappointed at some point but we have *never* bought anything in bulk, for a mission it couldn't fulfill. Period.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:49 am
by Steveocee
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:06 am
by macgaiver
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:08 am
by Steveocee
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Thank you for the info. Well played MikroTik. There I was a few posts up saying it'll be v8 that gets released!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:22 am
by blimbach
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Hmmm, I just installed it on my cAP AC and it works as expected as cAP.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:38 am
by honzam
b1 works on rb4011.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:11 pm
by alibloke
4 years 7 months 20.69 days from opening this thread to an answer.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:44 pm
by reks2004
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:47 pm
by krisjanisj
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:26 pm
by mfr476
Ros v7 is release!

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:54 pm
by mkx
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...

:lol:

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:55 pm
by mkx
Ros v7 is release!

No, it's not. ROS v7beta is in public testing ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:02 pm
by genesispro
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:06 pm
by blingblouw
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:53 pm
by genesispro
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only
and you flashed it back to 6.x?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:56 pm
by brimfulnick
I don't speak Russian but I take it that the beta is now available? mt.lv/v7 ?
Yes, only for ARM architecture and only for hap ac^2 and WAPGR LTE/4G/LTE-US testing, to get v7 ready for upcoming 5G products, according to Sergejs. support for remaining boards will gradually come out

it has v6.45.5 feature set and main change is new Linux Kernel atm, feature will gradually come out in time. First they need help with stability testing on those boards
Hmmm, I just installed it on my cAP AC and it works as expected as cAP.
I tried this on a cAPAC which is connecting to a CCR as the manager, but get this on the capac
caps,info CAP connect to ccr1 (::ffff:10.0.0.254:5246) failed: ssl: fatal alert received (6) 
caps,info CAP failed to join ccr1 (::ffff:10.0.0.254:5246)
and this on the CCR
caps,debug ::ffff:10.0.0.4:40338 failed to connect, handshake failed: error 140890e9 (6)
This wasn't a device that this was meant to work on, so i guess we just have to wait for other releases

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:07 pm
by mistry7
anyone installed it on a 4011 yet?
Yup. Got 1 kernel panic so definitely would run this in lab only
and you flashed it back to 6.x?
Yes it runs about 30s so upload and Downgrade works....

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:23 am
by Alane
Running on a 3011 now stable so far get a lot of these though
"error - contact MikroTik support and send a supout file (2)"

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:27 am
by Railander
Very happy to see v7 finally coming together.

What's the kernel version?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:26 am
by Jotne
Did you read this thread?
viewtopic.php?p=748889

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:27 pm
by MichalP
Anybody know what about "ip route cache" in routeros-7.0 beta1 ?
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=78107

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:26 pm
by pe1chl
The IP route cache is gone in the newer Linux kernel. It would be surprising when that problem is still present.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:32 am
by Amm0
Is MBIM support in the v7 beta? e.g. all the LTE modems that say "v7"

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:49 pm
by DummyPLUG
Any info about V7 on Tile? (CCR)
No current ETA can be given but won't be years...
decades?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 12:12 am
by Chupaka
IMG_20190910_001102_513.jpg

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:37 am
by mfr476
Really Chupaka? We are isp. Our work not is a joke ...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:13 am
by normis
If you are an ISP, please forget about v7 for one more year. It will be in beta for a long time still

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:24 am
by blimbach
If you are an ISP, please forget about v7 for one more year. It will be in beta for a long time still
Okay, that's an announcement! You can just leave it like that...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:27 am
by krisjanisj
As I've and @Normis have said - DO NOT install these releases on a production gear. These releases are experimental and beta for a reason...

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:38 am
by mfr476
I have ros7 in my 3011 to do tests, I don't use it in productive situations

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:54 am
by DenisPDA
IMG_20190910_001102_513.jpg
You can share the source (url) of the changelog?

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:18 am
by normis
There is no changelog, because this is the first and only release

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:24 am
by Steveocee
There is no changelog, because this is the first and only release
Changelog:
v6.xx changed to reflect correct version v7.xx

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:21 pm
by paoloaga
Since 2013 MikroTik promises to fix bugs with v7 (recursive ipv6 nexthops etc)
It's already fixed with this script:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=150616

😂

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:59 pm
by mrz
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:51 am
by nz_monkey
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.
❤️

Re: RouterOS v7.0 beta1 - when?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:11 pm
by IPANetEngineer
Recursive nexthops in v7 works without any scripts.
❤️
Woahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

+1000000000000 :lol: