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STOP THE ARES VER 1.8

Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:16 am

I DONT KNOW, but the people http://ipp2p.org/ and l7-filter, maybe can stop the new ARES encrypted.

if yes, i can think Mikrotik study it, and detect the ARES and stop it.

really, my customers Wisp, need this. this customers try to change Mk to other solutions, i want use Mikrotik for this Wisp.

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Mon Sep 04, 2006 7:08 am

Look, stop hoping MikroTik can solve all your P2P problems, they're always going to be a step behind the latest software. If you're an ISP, make sure your terms of service forbid P2P traffic and then start monitoring your customers. When you catch them, and P2P traffic leaves a very obvious trail in the connection table, kick their ass off your network. None of this warning stuff, or "I didn't realize" stuff, or "my kid didn't know" stuff. Set the rules for use of your network and enforce them. If that customer wants to cripple a wireless network with P2P traffic, make sure it's one of your compeditors that they cripple, not you.
 
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:39 pm

Look, stop hoping MikroTik can solve all your P2P problems, they're always going to be a step behind the latest software. If you're an ISP, make sure your terms of service forbid P2P traffic and then start monitoring your customers. When you catch them, and P2P traffic leaves a very obvious trail in the connection table, kick their ass off your network. None of this warning stuff, or "I didn't realize" stuff, or "my kid didn't know" stuff. Set the rules for use of your network and enforce them. If that customer wants to cripple a wireless network with P2P traffic, make sure it's one of your compeditors that they cripple, not you.
:) You should optimize your QoS strategy - good ISP should allways prioritize standart services over the other, and with addition with strict limitations, you don't even need to recognize p2p traffic at all.
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Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:04 pm

If you're using routerboards as your AP's though, and you've got connection tracking turned on, you've still got a vested interest in keeping P2P traffic away from those machines. There is a noticable performance hit when the AP has to track thousands of attempted connections instead of a hundred or so.

QoS is a good idea even without thinking of P2P, especially if you've got a mix of residential and business customers with various bandwidth guarentees. :)
 
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Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:06 am

If you're using routerboards as your AP's though, and you've got connection tracking turned on, you've still got a vested interest in keeping P2P traffic away from those machines. There is a noticable performance hit when the AP has to track thousands of attempted connections instead of a hundred or so.

QoS is a good idea even without thinking of P2P, especially if you've got a mix of residential and business customers with various bandwidth guarentees. :)

everybody thanks for you opinion

but, if can not mark in mangle the ARES , i can´t make queues for it, only queues for all P2P less ARES 1.8


my customers, in first time try use Kazaa for example, see the kazaa, no work talk with other users, and the other user anwsers, HI i can download p2p with ares 1.8, the other users kill kazaa, and install the ARES 1.8

all customers in the WISP change to ARES 1.8, aaaagghhhhhhhhh

i can´t mangle , i can´t queues for it, no have control for p2p.

this is my problem.


now, if i am put a new node, or Wisp, i know now, NO STOP the p2p, only put in mangle and queue, the user can use kazaa, bitorrent, and Ares, but slowly, but if stop p2p, uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuufffffffff
everybody go to ARES very fast 1.8

what you think??

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Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:26 am

Like I said, identify those customers, throw them off your network, let them trash somebody elses network instead of yours. Your competition will be crippled and you'll pick up customers because your network is actually usable.

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