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3.0 beta 1 is out!

Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:50 pm

OK, folks - let's start the 3.0 rock'n'roll :D ...

Here the changelog:
Caveats:

*) autosupout.rif generation does not work yet, it should be made by hand;
*) supout.rif generation works does not work in WinBox yet (it works only in console);

*) dropped support for Linksys HomeLink PhoneLine Network Card (10Mbps over 
   telephone line);
*) dropped support for PCMCIA RadioLan;
*) dropped support for telephony package;
*) ISDN does not log called and caller numbers anymore;
*) OSPF does not work with routing package;

What's new in v3.0beta1:

*) added support for SATA disks;
*) added initial support for SMP on x86 (use it on your own risk);
*) added support for up to 2Gb of memory on x86;
*) fixed time matching in firewall rules;
*) added time matching to bridge firewall rules;
*) multiple ports can be specifief in firewall as src. and dst.;
*) added support for NAT-T in IPsec; 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:09 pm

Note, that User Manager isn't workin in the v3.0beta yet.
also there could be lot of bugs, please email them to support@mikrotik.com and specify in the subject that you are reffering to v3.0
 
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Note, that User Manager isn't workin in the v3.0beta yet.
also there could be lot of bugs, please email them to support@mikrotik.com and specify in the subject that you are reffering to v3.0
Is there any preliminary documentation yet? (For example, the SNMP API that was discussed in previous threads?)

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Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:30 pm

What's new in v3.0beta1:

*) added support for SATA disks;
*) added initial support for SMP on x86 (use it on your own risk);
This is what I'm waiting for.. hope can work properly.. but hey.. where is the 64 bit support ?
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:53 pm

how do you upgrade???
new netinstall or does the copy files to MT upgrade also work...
 
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What's new in v3.0beta1:

*) added support for SATA disks;
*) added initial support for SMP on x86 (use it on your own risk);
This is what I'm waiting for.. hope can work properly.. but hey.. where is the 64 bit support ?
Hotspot have importants changes? and the web have something different? or i can continue using 2.9 hotpost customized pages?

Thanks and regards!
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is there IGMP & pim-sm (multicast) on this version, i am dling now to find out! i really hope its on there.
 
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Were there any changes to the wireless drivers? Previous discussions indicated a new driver that would increase performance alot?
 
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Can of worms has been opened : )

Remember, beta ... beta ... beta ... not for production.

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Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:32 pm

piwi3910, both methods of upgrade should work fine, use regular upgrade by uploading packages via FTP.
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:34 pm

Is there an updated hardware compatibility list so I can see which SATA controllers are supported?
Please say LSI MegaRAID SATA/SAS (It's an open source Linux 2.6 driver!) is supported so we can use this on Sun AMD64 systems - I really want to deploy some x4200s with the new SMP support
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:22 pm

I wish there were more features. such as

- Multi threadings and detection several number of cpu

- Backup Router (mirroring routeros configs on backup router and force to take the original router's place when the original router is down and stand down when it is backed online) very critical when we wan't to maintain hardware issues or replace add/removehardware or even a simple reboot.

- support for USB wireless and specially USB pendrive as installation.

- Event-based scripting rather than simple Schedule or Netwatch. for instance trigger a script when certain packet from specified IP address received, meaning trigger scripting on packets arrival or departure.

- deeper access in scripting, instead of few console command and loops. access API functions and object oriented access to package's interfaces.

- support for various wireless cards, 70% of available cards here in this part of the world doesnt match with routeros, such as ralink chips who are very common and cheap

- text web browsing to control any web-based network equipments such as reboot of the adsl or sdsl modem via web-based interface when modem hangs.

there are a lot things that we expect to see.

thanks again.
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:34 pm

piwi3910, both methods of upgrade should work fine, use regular upgrade by uploading packages via FTP.
ok i can definitly say, i'm the one with the first bug...
updated my test router by FTP all the new packages to the router...
rebooted....
and nothing anymore...
no booting or so what ever...

so don't ftp the packages... it doesn't work on a clean RB500 install
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:41 pm

I wish there were more features. such as

- support for various wireless cards, 70% of available cards here in this part of the world doesnt match with routeros, such as ralink chips who are very common and cheap
RouterOS == Atheros, get used to it. It's been made pretty clear on the forums that they don't have much intrest in supporting anything else with any serious degree of effort. Atheros is an excellent product line, but there are a lot of other things out there!

Personally I'd like to see better support for Hermes (it's old yes, but it's GOOD! and I have a lot of them). Cisco AeroNET cards also have pretty poor support. I can't get them to actually associate to anything :/ However, with the age and EOL status of those particular chipsets I can understand why they don't want to spend time on them, with so many other MUCH more important things needing done *cough*BGP*cough*.
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:22 pm

ok i upgraded, and like i said after the reboot the RB50 did come up again.
a hard reset worked and got V3 b1 working....
BUT

everything works as far as i can see...
2 strange things...
the routing package is disabled after the upgrade...
you can just enable it again...

but worse...
the pppoe client doest work...
it just says dailing but nothing connects...

after downgrading back again to 2.9.30 evrything is fine again..
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:05 pm

I dont see any real difference except for SATA support ... besides limited hardware support changes what has changed?

snmp enhancements?
scripting enhancements?
firewall enhancements?
what has really changed?
 
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:41 pm

I wish there were more features. such as

- support for various wireless cards, 70% of available cards here in this part of the world doesnt match with routeros, such as ralink chips who are very common and cheap
RouterOS == Atheros, get used to it. It's been made pretty clear on the forums that they don't have much intrest in supporting anything else with any serious degree of effort. Atheros is an excellent product line, but there are a lot of other things out there!

Personally I'd like to see better support for Hermes (it's old yes, but it's GOOD! and I have a lot of them). Cisco AeroNET cards also have pretty poor support. I can't get them to actually associate to anything :/ However, with the age and EOL status of those particular chipsets I can understand why they don't want to spend time on them, with so many other MUCH more important things needing done *cough*BGP*cough*.
If you actually look at forum, you will find promise that ralink will be suported in 3.0 version...
 
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i hope in V3.Beta they will support TCP acceleration to increase browsing speed
 
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With SMP support has the 1GB RAM limit gone the way of the dodo? The reason I ask is simple, if I have two Opterons then for the most efficient use of the the maximum 1GB RAM I must have 512MB per CPU otherwise all traffic has to go across the HT bus which increases the latency and loads up all of the traffic onto a single memory controller defeating the point of NUMA but if I use 512MB per CPU that means I need 2x256MB sticks to use which are difficult to get in Registered/ECC versions for PC-3200 or PC2-5300
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i hope in V3.Beta they will support TCP acceleration to increase browsing speed
huh? why? what's your application?
tcp acceleration would only benefit the endpoints in a conversation and not the points inbetween. just curious.
Move along. Nothing to see here.
 
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I wish there were more features. such as

- support for various wireless cards, 70% of available cards here in this part of the world doesnt match with routeros, such as ralink chips who are very common and cheap
RouterOS == Atheros, get used to it. It's been made pretty clear on the forums that they don't have much intrest in supporting anything else with any serious degree of effort. Atheros is an excellent product line, but there are a lot of other things out there!

Personally I'd like to see better support for Hermes (it's old yes, but it's GOOD! and I have a lot of them). Cisco AeroNET cards also have pretty poor support. I can't get them to actually associate to anything :/ However, with the age and EOL status of those particular chipsets I can understand why they don't want to spend time on them, with so many other MUCH more important things needing done *cough*BGP*cough*.
If you actually look at forum, you will find promise that ralink will be suported in 3.0 version...
well, as far I know beta is reffered to none-tested and none-debugged version of a software that is released for volunteers to test it so that developer can finalize it.

but speaking of this 3.0 beta, its not even close... ralink might get covered in 3.0.5 alpha? or 3.0.25? or maybe 3.0.35?

... supporting this chip is just an small piece of nail in making a giant warehouse.

god help them.
 
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If you actually look at forum, you will find promise that ralink will be suported in 3.0 version...
this has never been said by anyone from mikrotik
 
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Re: don't

Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:48 am

Provide us with details about the RB500, we have tested FTP upgrade in different manner, it worked fine.
piwi3910, both methods of upgrade should work fine, use regular upgrade by uploading packages via FTP.
ok i can definitly say, i'm the one with the first bug...
updated my test router by FTP all the new packages to the router...
rebooted....
and nothing anymore...
no booting or so what ever...

so don't ftp the packages... it doesn't work on a clean RB500 install
 
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Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:14 am

Were there any changes to the wireless drivers? Previous discussions indicated a new driver that would increase performance alot?
Any plan to incorporate new polling scheme that
would increase MT resilience to interference ?

By using new mac protocol that disable random backoff
option ?

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Were there any changes to the wireless drivers? Previous discussions indicated a new driver that would increase performance alot?
Any plan to incorporate new polling scheme that
would increase MT resilience to interference ?

By using new mac protocol that disable random backoff
option ?

High Regards,
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we are making the new driver, it is not yet included in this release
 
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it sounds that this drivrs is more alpha then beta now :) :roll:
 
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Were there any changes to the wireless drivers? Previous discussions indicated a new driver that would increase performance alot?
Any plan to incorporate new polling scheme that
would increase MT resilience to interference ?

By using new mac protocol that disable random backoff
option ?

High Regards,
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can you please explain more what it means?
 
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colorful terminal :)

I tried the x86 version.
anyone found a big different in this beta version ?

in wireless setting, the frequency combo box is gone.
we have to type the frequency manually.
 
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colorful terminal :)

I tried the x86 version.
anyone found a big different in this beta version ?

in wireless setting, the frequency combo box is gone.
we have to type the frequency manually.
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Hi all

i supprissed hear about it, but i will try it, when userman available on this version . again i want upgrade it, ...maybe in short time i will try with my RBs.
coz, myx86 now running well with userman, i don't want lose that feature

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do not upgrade an important system, only for testing. you can use the demo key or the trial to try the beta. for tests, the demo should be enough
 
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do not upgrade an important system, only for testing. you can use the demo key or the trial to try the beta. for tests, the demo should be enough
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ok,,, i think you are right ... in this comment post, i like you as true support quick respond, before action,!!!!

i will keep our system as running well.

thanks man...
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3.0 beta

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is it possible to preset Firewall srcs for MSN messeng, Yahoo, AOL AIM, ICQ, MSN Gaming, Yahoo games. I have setup very many HOTSPOT Mikrotiks and users utilize these al the time, the timing preset and TOS would be great too.

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Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:06 am

Why would they get rid of PCMCIA Radiolan support?

I understand the necessity for less space and less driver support. but sometimes the old stuff works better. Look at Microsoft as an example, everytime they change their OS they lose driver support.

I guess they want atheros 65mw cards to be used ?

I think I will stick with 2.9 it has all more support features, and its functionality fits Hotel, Airport, Cafe customer needs.
 
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Well done MT, keep up the good work!

To all: as normis said, this is called BETA, which means it should be used for testing purposes only. Anybody who's willing to test and submit observations and bugs is most welcome as it will help in developing RouterOS.

Cheers all...
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I'd like to see ability to use it as a PPPoE client concentrator.

I'd like to be able to terminate different PPPoE sessions to different VLANs so I can use a 532 with a VLAN switch to service many customers in an MTU.
 
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Re: 3.0 beta 1 is out!

Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:20 pm

OK, .............tart the 3.0 rock'n'roll :D ...
cmit and friends
did you start fine rockNroll with CDimage[*.iso v3-beta1].... :wink:
i had trouble with it.

at this link: http://forum.mikrotik.com//viewtopic.ph ... ght=#50903

Thanks
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I'd like to see ability to use it as a PPPoE client concentrator.

I'd like to be able to terminate different PPPoE sessions to different VLANs so I can use a 532 with a VLAN switch to service many customers in an MTU.
And can't you already do that?
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I'd like to see ability to use it as a PPPoE client concentrator.

I'd like to be able to terminate different PPPoE sessions to different VLANs so I can use a 532 with a VLAN switch to service many customers in an MTU.
And can't you already do that?
http://forum.mikrotik.com//viewtopic.php?t=11218

New thread started about this.
 
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I'm having trouble on a virtual machine, too. (See my reply to the other post.)

Will try on a "real" routerboard now...

Best regards,
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I've had nothign but problems with the NetInstall process.
 
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Any news regarding API? Perhaps some beta decriptions?

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Re: 3.0 beta 1 is out!

Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:20 pm


*) OSPF does not work with routing package;
Any chance to have OSPF working with 3.0? It has been reported from different sources that OSPF is not well workin on 2.9 so I was wondering if support will be better in 3.0 (maybe implementation switch to some zebra-like package?)

Any comment would be helpful.

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