+148x SFP+
6x QSFP
as a BGP router...
edit: any ETA?
I think Mikrotik are talking about a high-touch(services) router, not a low-touch router. This will be a services router like the CCR that can run PPP/NAT type services, not a "low-touch" router/switch that can just forward frames quickly.48x SFP+
6x QSFP
as a BGP router...
edit: any ETA?
Don't we all ?I want 100gb and -48vdc power.
for BGP in IX we need something which have as much ports as possible. And quick forwarding/routing is they key functionalityI think Mikrotik are talking about a high-touch(services) router, not a low-touch router. This will be a services router like the CCR that can run PPP/NAT type services, not a "low-touch" router/switch that can just forward frames quickly.
now and in the future, there is not difference between L3 switch/router, speed is the key... hardware ASIC with TCAM is what you need.why even people post switch gear links? we are talking about the next gen ccr
Well this is good news then! So can I get it on my home network?Yes, these are for a new tier of high end Mikrotik routers. As they said initially, 100 gigabit capacity.Like not for home use right? I am bit confuse. I have a 100mbps connection and Gbit is a lot considering the experience I get on 100.
An IX shouldn't be doing any routing. An IX should only be switching. Layer 2 only.for BGP in IX we need something which have as much ports as possible. And quick forwarding/routing is they key functionalityI think Mikrotik are talking about a high-touch(services) router, not a low-touch router. This will be a services router like the CCR that can run PPP/NAT type services, not a "low-touch" router/switch that can just forward frames quickly.48x SFP+
6x QSFP
as a BGP router...
edit: any ETA?
inspiration here .. http://e.huawei.com/en/products/enterpr ... s/ne/ne40e
until then 802.1ad can be used to connect CRS switches (CRS317-1G-16S+ will make lots of things possible) to CCRs as port extendersFor the "more ports" people, check out 802.1BR
If Mikrotik were to implement 802.1BR on their routers and switches, it would allow "port extension", e.g. there could be a Mikrotik Router connected to a Mikrotik Switch in "Port Extender" mode, all of the ports on the switch would then appear as if they were local ports on the router.
An IX shouldn't be doing any routing. An IX should only be switching. Layer 2 only.
why two or more boxes? it is twice more chance something went broken. One box with enough SFP+ and QSFP port is preferredFor the "more ports" people, check out 802.1BR
If Mikrotik were to implement 802.1BR on their routers and switches, it would allow "port extension", e.g. there could be a Mikrotik Router connected to a Mikrotik Switch in "Port Extender" mode, all of the ports on the switch would then appear as if they were local ports on the router.
802.1BR is supported by the switch chips used in the new CRS3xx series of switches, so it would be possible for Mikrotik to add the ability to use the CRS3xx as port extenders for their routers.
The IX infrastructure doesn't do BGP. It just does basic Ethernet. Many (most) do have route servers that do run BGP, but those are best ran on servers, not routers.An IX shouldn't be doing any routing. An IX should only be switching. Layer 2 only.for BGP in IX we need something which have as much ports as possible. And quick forwarding/routing is they key functionalityI think Mikrotik are talking about a high-touch(services) router, not a low-touch router. This will be a services router like the CCR that can run PPP/NAT type services, not a "low-touch" router/switch that can just forward frames quickly.48x SFP+
6x QSFP
as a BGP router...
edit: any ETA?
inspiration here .. http://e.huawei.com/en/products/enterpr ... s/ne/ne40e
BGP is L2 ?
The IX infrastructure doesn't do BGP. It just does basic Ethernet. Many (most) do have route servers that do run BGP, but those are best ran on servers, not routers.
I have built and operate two Internet exchanges and am in regular discussion with my colleagues on IX operations. If you are running an IX, you want a switch, not a router. This is because Internet exchanges don't route themselves. They provide a platform to allow operators to connect to. Those operators then run BGP.The IX infrastructure doesn't do BGP. It just does basic Ethernet. Many (most) do have route servers that do run BGP, but those are best ran on servers, not routers.
BGP is L2 ?
Brocade, Juniper, Arista, Cisco, Huawei ... do you really mean "servers" ? Sorry maybe we talking about two other things, in IXP we have routers and interconnection with other providers by BGP, public IX have "routing servers" most of them Bird I guess.
But if you want to peer with other providers, you need router, with many ports, some ports you use for interconnect, some for transport. Ok, you can do it by two boxes, switch + router, but why? One box is better in may ways. Power, failure, security, backup ....
no flame, but we prefer private direct peering (dedicated fiber), not through public IX. So from our point of view, as many ports as router can have, is better for us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_exchange_point
However, I feel as though we have gone far beyond the OP's question in explaining to you how an IX works. We can continue this conversation elsewhere, if you'd like.
That sounds like a switch rather than a router..I would like a a 48 SFP's with one or 2 SFP+'s
ideally if it can be Stack-able to have expansion
This topic is not about 100Gb ports, but about 100Gb throughput.Not a problem, but this is not high-end device, right? And this topic is for 100G ports, something you just don't need in desktop unit, after all.But I would like a desktop unit with a single internal PSU.None of the rack mountable CCR units has an external power supply
Which you also don't typically need in a desktop unit. Most of those commenting seem to have lost the initial scope of the request.This topic is not about 100Gb ports, but about 100Gb throughput.Not a problem, but this is not high-end device, right? And this topic is for 100G ports, something you just don't need in desktop unit, after all.But I would like a desktop unit with a single internal PSU.None of the rack mountable CCR units has an external power supply
What OS and what hardware?but OpenBGPd is making a comeback. We have built ours on OpenBGPd and are loving it.
Running OpenBSD on Proxmox and vSphere VMs now. Well, some older Dell hardware too. Low load, so don't need much power behind it.Way, way off topic, sorry:
What OS and what hardware?but OpenBGPd is making a comeback. We have built ours on OpenBGPd and are loving it.
I played with it on a PC just to see how it worked but it's been a while. Would be cool to deploy that on OpenBSD on beefy hardware, should be solid based on what I've seen.
That is great, I hope you can launch a router with at least 4 QSPF ports.We are working on some future high speed routers with around 100Gbit throughput, and we would like your input on what types of ports you would want to see in such devices.
If you imagine a device with around 16 ports (just an example), how many of them would you want to be (just examples, you can add your own ideas):
SFP+ (10G)
SFP28 (25G)
QSFP (4x10G)
10Gbit copper (10G)
Management with PoE
Let us know in the replies here
Question re "...routers with around 100Gbit throughput..."We are working on some future high speed routers with around 100Gbit throughput, and we would like your input on what types of ports you would want to see in such devices.
If you imagine a device with around 16 ports (just an example), how many of them would you want to be (just examples, you can add your own ideas):
SFP+ (10G)
SFP28 (25G)
QSFP (4x10G)
10Gbit copper (10G)
Management with PoE
Let us know in the replies here
second that.12 x SFP+ (10G)
4 x QSFP (4x10G)
1 x Management (no PoE)
1 x serial management
6x10Gbit Copper, 4xSFP+, 2xSFP28We are working on some future high speed routers with around 100Gbit throughput, and we would like your input on what types of ports you would want to see in such devices.
If you imagine a device with around 16 ports (just an example), how many of them would you want to be (just examples, you can add your own ideas):
SFP+ (10G)
SFP28 (25G)
QSFP (4x10G)
10Gbit copper (10G)
Management with PoE
Let us know in the replies here
Which other routers are stackable ?Hi!
I think you first need to learn how to make stackable hardware.
WBR,
Fyodor.
Switch chips typically have ACL capabilities built-in.Given that there are switch chips and encryption chip, how about other types of specialized ASICs to further offload the cpu and give the boxes better performance.
A firewall chip perhaps??
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Limited to layer 2 I assume??Switch chips typically have ACL capabilities built-in.Given that there are switch chips and encryption chip, how about other types of specialized ASICs to further offload the cpu and give the boxes better performance.
A firewall chip perhaps??
Sent from my cell phone. Sorry for the errors.
So , I am assuming that you think/feel that a hardware switch-chip and/or a XEON processor and/or 10-Gig SFP+ and/or 10-Gig copper-ethernet ports and/or a faster than 10-Gig expansion slot would would not make a router run faster for Layer 1, Layer 2 and Layer 3 throughput ?I apologize, but the name of the topic about the "high speed router", and not on the switch...
Usually big announcements are at the EU MUM.It´s 01/2019: Any rumors when the new router will be released?
LOLOnce per three years is more than enough.
I'm assuming the one that this thread was started for.Wait, which new router?
Yea. But my first wish is to make interfaces work perfect which are there. I still cant see how flow control is negotiated. It happens flow control is not negotiated at all. And I often have the problem with negotiation on sfp interfaces. I need to disable/enable an interface after reboot (made a script) to make it work.Thread was started to get ideas about potential requirements in hypothetical devices that may come in the future, not a specific product. To see what standards people see as becoming more needed etc.
This.I would like a CCR 1036 with 4 SFP+
Ehm, that 2-4 QSFP ports and 24 SFP+ already exists:Interesting thread. I would like 2-4 QSFP ports with 24 SFP+ ports that are both 1 and 10 Gig capable. For the CPE HAP ac's etc a VOIP port RJ11 connection.