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APC UPS

Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:12 am

Hello

Will any APC ups report to a rb532 the power has gone off or just one with smart or whatever its called

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Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:04 am

only APC Smart protocol is supported:
http://www.mikrotik.com/testdocs/ros/2.9/system/ups.php

that's why it's called smart.
 
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:41 am

The cheaper APC Back-UPS models would be nice to have support for. It seems silly to not support them - not every situation calls for an expensive Smart-UPS product!
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:07 am

The cheaper APC Back-UPS models would be nice to have support for. It seems silly to not support them - not every situation calls for an expensive Smart-UPS product!
I agree. But I guess implementing support for them is low on the priority list for development.
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:48 pm

It seems like a Back-ups would be more beneficial to support than a smart-ups. Back-ups are probably more often deployed for small sites like we'd have an RB at.

The protocol is simpler, as smart-ups has things like temperature, charge, capacity, alert, voltage, relay contacts, and other variables for monitoring. Back-ups is probably just power status.

I use smartups at my datacenter, but don't monitor them with MTOS, since there is no reason for an extended power outage with the autostart generator.
 
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The cheaper APC Back-UPS models would be nice to have support for. It seems silly to not support them - not every situation calls for an expensive Smart-UPS product!
I thought that it was not, but I have one hooked up right now! I assumed from the lack of confirmation, and no mentions in the manual of Back-UPS that it was not supported. I am not certain, but I thought I also read somewhere that "Only Smart-UPS" is supported.

Back-UPS WORKS, but I cannot say weather it is officially supported. That is up to a staff member to confirm.

This is on ROS 2.9.38, x86 PC with Intel i815 chipset motherboard.

However, I have a "Back-UPS ES 500 FW:2.e2.D USB FW:e2" as identified by ROS working right now.

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Re: APC UPS

Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:02 pm

Back-UPS XS 1100CI-RS WORKS!!!
951G-2HnD 6.10
 
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Re: APC UPS

Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:57 pm

i have following problem:
RB751 + APC UPS with USB works,

when i take this working ups and connect to RB2011 or RB951 IT DOESNT WORKS AND RB SOMETIMES REBOOTS!!!!??

solution?
 
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Re: APC UPS

Thu May 29, 2014 2:26 am

Here is a RB2011 running v6.12.

I was able to monitor several APC Back-UPS XS-1500G units and an older BX1500G unit. I powered all six APC 1500G UPS's up on the same power strip and moved the USB cable from one to the next.

[admin@TEST Router] > sys resou prin
uptime: 41m13s
version: 6.12
build-time: Apr/14/2014 09:27:45
free-memory: 108.8MiB
total-memory: 128.0MiB
cpu: MIPS 74Kc V4.12
cpu-count: 1
cpu-frequency: 600MHz
cpu-load: 4%
free-hdd-space: 110.7MiB
total-hdd-space: 128.0MiB
write-sect-since-reboot: 68
write-sect-total: 6461
bad-blocks: 0%
architecture-name: mipsbe
board-name: RB2011UiAS-2HnD
platform: MikroTik
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8"
serial="4B1345P23018" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8"
serial="4B1336P39058" manufacture-date="2013-09-06"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8"
serial="4B1345P23098" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8"
serial="4B1318P38382" manufacture-date="2013-05-04"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8"
serial="4B1345P23088" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m
alarm-setting=immediate model="Back-UPS BX1500G FW:866.L5 .D USB FW:L5"
serial="3B1106X26340" manufacture-date="2011-02-04"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@TEST Router] >
[admin@TEST Router] /system ups> mon 0
on-line: yes
on-battery: no
rtc-running: no
runtime-left: 17m15s
battery-charge: 100%
battery-voltage: 27.16V
line-voltage: 125V
load: 36%
replace-battery: no
smart-boost: no
smart-trim: no
overload: no
low-battery: no
-- [Q quit|D dump|C-z pause]


This same RB2011 TEST Router will NOT monitor the following other APC UPS's I have laying around:

APC Back-UPS ES-500
APC Back-UPS ES-550
APC Back-UPS ES-600G

Here's the interesting part.

A RB493G with the simple USB power jumper modification can monitor all the aforementioned APC UPS's !!!

[admin@Test2 Router] > sys reso prin
uptime: 12m19s
version: 5.25
free-memory: 244248KiB
total-memory: 257108KiB
cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
cpu-count: 1
cpu-frequency: 680MHz
cpu-load: 2%
free-hdd-space: 79648KiB
total-hdd-space: 126976KiB
write-sect-since-reboot: 5568
write-sect-total: 36885
bad-blocks: 0%
architecture-name: mipsbe
board-name: RB493G
platform: MikroTik
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 600G FW:905.W1 .D USB FW:W1" serial="4B1311P39220"
manufacture-date="2013-03-15" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1318P38382"
manufacture-date="2013-05-04" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23088"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23098"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1336P39058"
manufacture-date="2013-09-06" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23018"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS BX1500G FW:866.L5 .D USB FW:L5" serial="3B1106X26340"
manufacture-date="2011-02-04" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 500 FW:2.e2.D USB FW:e2" serial="AB0312140479"
manufacture-date="2003-03-17" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usb1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 550 FW:843.K2 .D USB FW:K2" serial="3B1135X25856"
manufacture-date="2011-08-27" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] >


Well, maybe the RB493G can monitor ALL nine of these APC UPS's because it's running v5.25? Let's upgrade this RB493G to v6.12 and see if it still can monitor all these different APC UPS's...

How about that! A RB493G with USB power jumper modification running v6.12 is able to monitor ALL of these different APC UPS's!!!!

[admin@Test2 Router] > sys reso prin
uptime: 2m13s
version: 6.12
build-time: Apr/14/2014 09:27:45
free-memory: 227.0MiB
total-memory: 256.0MiB
cpu: MIPS 24Kc V7.4
cpu-count: 1
cpu-frequency: 680MHz
cpu-load: 0%
free-hdd-space: 110.3MiB
total-hdd-space: 127.8MiB
write-sect-since-reboot: 959
write-sect-total: 32276
bad-blocks: 0%
architecture-name: mipsbe
board-name: RB493G
platform: MikroTik
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 550 FW:843.K2 .D USB FW:K2" serial="3B1135X25856"
manufacture-date="2011-08-27" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 500 FW:2.e2.D USB FW:e2" serial="AB0312140479"
manufacture-date="2003-03-17" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 600G FW:905.W1 .D USB FW:W1" serial="4B1311P39220"
manufacture-date="2013-03-15" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23018"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1336P39058"
manufacture-date="2013-09-06" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23088"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23098"
manufacture-date="2013-11-07" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1318P38382"
manufacture-date="2013-05-04" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS BX1500G FW:866.L5 .D USB FW:L5" serial="3B1106X26340"
manufacture-date="2011-02-04" nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@Test2 Router] >



That's not all....it gets even more interesting when we start testing CCR1036-12G-4S routers. The first CCR1036-12G-4S is able to monitor ALL nine of the different APC UPS's I have here to test! Yay!

[admin@MikroTik] > sys reso prin
uptime: 2m57s
version: 6.12
build-time: Apr/14/2014 09:27:45
free-memory: 3790.1MiB
total-memory: 3969.0MiB
cpu: tilegx
cpu-count: 36
cpu-frequency: 1200MHz
cpu-load: 0%
free-hdd-space: 905.5MiB
total-hdd-space: 1024.0MiB
architecture-name: tile
board-name: CCR1036-12G-4S
platform: MikroTik
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS BX1500G FW:866.L5 .D USB FW:L5" serial="3B1106X26340" manufacture-date="2011-02-04"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1318P38382" manufacture-date="2013-05-04"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23098" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23088" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1336P39058" manufacture-date="2013-09-06"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L8 .D USB FW:L8" serial="4B1345P23018" manufacture-date="2013-11-07"
nominal-battery-voltage=24V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 500 FW:2.e2.D USB FW:e2" serial="AB0312140479" manufacture-date="2003-03-17"
nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 550 FW:843.K2 .D USB FW:K2" serial="3B1135X25856" manufacture-date="2011-08-27"
nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@MikroTik] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 600G FW:905.W1 .D USB FW:W1" serial="4B1311P39220" manufacture-date="2013-03-15"
nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@MikroTik] >



The second CCR1036-12G-4S router I tested could only monitor one of the nine APC UPS's ....Booooo!!!!

[admin@CCR1036 Test2 Router] > sys reso prin
uptime: 6m51s
version: 6.12
build-time: Apr/14/2014 09:27:45
free-memory: 3767.0MiB
total-memory: 3969.0MiB
cpu: tilegx
cpu-count: 36
cpu-frequency: 1200MHz
cpu-load: 0%
free-hdd-space: 902.4MiB
total-hdd-space: 1024.0MiB
architecture-name: tile
board-name: CCR1036-12G-4S
platform: MikroTik
[admin@CCR1036 Test2 Router] > sys ups prin
Flags: X - disabled, I - invalid
0 name="ups1" port=usbhid1 offline-time=5m min-runtime=5m alarm-setting=immediate
model="Back-UPS ES 600G FW:905.W1 .D USB FW:W1" serial="4B1311P39220"
manufacture-date="2013-03-15" nominal-battery-voltage=12V
[admin@CCR1036 Test2 Router] >
[admin@CCR1036 Test2 Router] > sys resou usb prin
# DEVICE VENDOR NAME SPEED
0 2:1 Linux 3.3.5 ohci_hcd Tile-Gx OHCI 12 Mbps
1 2:5 APC Back-UPS ES 600G FW:905.W1 ... 1.5 Mbps
2 1:1 Linux 3.3.5 ehci_hcd Tile-Gx EHCI 480 Mbps
[admin@CCR1036 Test2 Router] >

Here is the USB print from the first CCR1036 that can monitor all nine UPS's:

[admin@MikroTik] > sys reso usb prin
# DEVICE VENDOR NAME SPEED
0 2:1 Linux 3.3.5 ohci_hcd Tile-Gx OHCI 12 Mbps
1 2:2 APC Back-UPS ES 600G F... 1.5 Mbps
2 1:1 Linux 3.3.5 ehci_hcd Tile-Gx EHCI 480 Mbps
[admin@MikroTik] > sys reso usb prin
# DEVICE VENDOR NAME SPEED
0 2:1 Linux 3.3.5 ohci_hcd Tile-Gx OHCI 12 Mbps
1 1:1 Linux 3.3.5 ehci_hcd Tile-Gx EHCI 480 Mbps
2 2:3 American Power Conversion Back-UPS XS 1500G FW:866.L... 12 Mbps
[admin@MikroTik] >


What do the guru's at MikroTik think the issue is?

(1) Why does a RB2011 only see the 1500G UPS's and the RB493G sees all nine UPS's?
(2) Why does one CCR1036 see all nine UPS's, but a second CCR1036 only sees the 600G and no other UPS's?

Thanks for those that took time to read this!

Brad
 
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Re: APC UPS

Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:18 am

USB UPS support on new RB sux,

if u have old RB751, RB411u or sg like that, ups shoud work well.

some fix for USB UPS -> RB2011,911 .... ???!???!!!
 
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Re: APC UPS

Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:52 pm

So is there support for the APC UPS or not?
The 10 topics with this issue and silence :?

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