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v6 RC and v7 BETA

Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:22 pm

I see this forum is called the V6 RC and v7 BETA.

Where can I download a v7 BETA?

Thanks guys.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:24 pm

Not yet, but soon
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:34 pm

"soon" in what perspective? Is it relative to time scale of v7 presence on this forum ... or is it relative to age if solar system?
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:45 pm

RouterOS V7 is overunity OS

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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:13 am

"soon" in what perspective? Is it relative to time scale of v7 presence on this forum ... or is it relative to age if solar system?
Last option.....
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:45 am

Not yet, but soon
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Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:24 am

Soon since 2013 :D
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:18 am

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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:02 am

days, weeks, months?
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:25 am

At this rate, when hell freezes over :D

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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:42 am

Not yet, but soon
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:42 am

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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:01 am

At least we know that folders already exist.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 9:36 am

At least we know that folders already exist.
Great news! xD
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:39 am

2 years ago the ROS 7.0 was on alpha 134:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/mikrotik_com ... 4195920896
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:43 am

Who said any of these pictures are showing the latest folders :-D
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:02 am

Who said any of these pictures are showing the latest folders :-D
And it says nothing how much working functions are included......
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:46 am

Who said any of these pictures are showing the latest folders :-D
True, they are missing arm64 folder.
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:22 pm

Teasing like this should be illegal :?
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:20 pm

2 years ago the ROS 7.0 was on alpha 134:

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https://mobile.twitter.com/mikrotik_com ... 4195920896
There is only arm and head, it lacks all the rest of the body!
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:55 pm

Screenshot 2018-10-23 at 08.41.39.png
And now a screenshot from a folder one level deeper please.
Just to make sure those are not empty folders ;-)
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:12 pm

How to speed up v7 development :lol:
find . -type d \( -name "tile" -o -name "ppc" \) -exec rm -rf {} \;
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:49 pm

Calm down there, satan :lol:
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:51 pm

Why can't you just give us a roadmap and/or release date?
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:46 pm

Screenshot 2018-10-23 at 08.41.39.png
The question was about V7 Beta, not V7 Alpha.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:18 pm

We know that it will have an upgraded kernel but what exactly will it give us in terms of performance compared to current releases ?
Packet forwading ?
Firewall ?
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:29 pm

Hope we will get the v7 beta version in 2018...
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:54 pm

Hope we will get the v7 beta version in 2018...
2018? That's what we said in 2013
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:30 am

Screenshot 2018-10-23 at 08.41.39.png
What is the timeline?
if there is no cut-off date then it's just proof of concept for developers.
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:38 am


What is the timeline?
if there is no cut-off date then it's just proof of concept for developers.
Alpha is exactly that - proof of concept (in a lot of ways)

They continue to work on 6.x, but 7 being a new kernel and everything means they have to make sure all existing functionality from 6.x is implemented and working properly with the major kernel changes (along with taking advantages of possible new efficient interfaces in the new kernels) so once they believe they've got a good working prototype, it'll move to Beta for public to help test.

Unfortunately, if we wanted to force their hand on v7 timeline/release schedule, they'd all but have to stop development on 6.x and that doesnt necessarily mean v7 will be quick, could you deal with 6 months+ of no further 6.x updates?

Software release cycles at the level of RouterOS are very time consuming things to get right. I'd rather have a good v7 then a rushed one.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:01 pm

Seriously now, hasn't anyone noticed the huge slowdown of development of v6 in the past months? RC builds used to come out almost every day, each with half a page of changes. Now they come out every two weeks or longer, with up to half a page of changes.

Couldn't this indicate that many MkTik devs have been allocated to a different project? Even more so, since this change happened after the inherent limitations of the v6 kernel and architecture started becoming show-stoppers in the utilization of the full capacity of newer chipsets?

In the past months, it has become my firm suspicion that v7 development which was obviously stalled for many years, has been revived. We shall see.
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:38 pm

Maybe the devs are on holiday.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:03 am

Maybe the devs are on holiday.
Maybe. And maybe there are few programmers...
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 am

Maybe the devs are on holiday.
Maybe. And maybe there are few programmers...
See: https://darbs.mikrotik.com/darbs/
Mikrotik have had that same ad up for the last 10 years...
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:48 am

which one will release first, Halflife 3 or V7 beta ?
 
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Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:54 am

which one will release first, Halflife 3 or V7 beta ?
Halflife.....
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:44 am

Hello Normis,

I do not understand why you are doing such secrets and not giving people serious information as it looks.


We are all on one ship, I think one line per week on the forum will not kill you.


You do not do that well.

Thanks for answer.

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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:26 pm

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Without the dates it's useless, please add the dates as well

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Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:39 pm

Whoever is interested in the dates can use a picture editor and add the dates he wants.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:42 pm

V7 beta seems to be already in development. You can see mrz's post:

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=130551

Seems to be v7beta running on Virtualbox.
 
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:10 pm

V7 beta seems to be already in development. You can see mrz's post:

http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=130551

Seems to be v7beta running on Virtualbox.
Then mrz has a unicorn :)
When exactly we have one too? A bugpile is better than nothing... :)
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:16 pm

Too big silence...Santa brings some wanted surprise? :-)
 
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Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:30 pm

if so, it is overdue for 2 years
 
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Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:23 am

Too big silence...Santa brings some wanted surprise? :-)
I would bet yes.
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:48 pm

In the past months, it has become my firm suspicion that v7 development which was obviously stalled for many years, has been revived. We shall see.
It happened with The Dude when it seemed life would only ever be 3.6 ...
Who knows!
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Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:05 am

And hopefully some new ARM64-based hardware as CCR replacement.
 
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Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:55 am

And hopefully some new ARM64-based hardware as CCR replacement.
Indeed. The CCR-line is a key product for many customers. It would be very welcomed with an refreshed version with similar number/type of interfaces.
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Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:56 am

My money is on MUM Europe 2019.
 
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BGP BGP BGP BGP BGP BGP BGP BGP.... \:D/
Agree with that. +1 for improved BGP performance and RPKI/ROV support.
 
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:31 pm

I think, the first and most important step is to finish kernel transplantation at least RC state and this should has more and more priority over RoS v6.x train.
After this can slowly dropping v6 and fix v7 bugs and implement the new features as a transition.
I hope MT switch to the most recent LTS kernel which supports all of the HW & SW components.
My fear is the patient will die under transplantation. We can't use their products because of missing IPv6 full VRF support.
 
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:58 pm

One month no new 6.44beta....
It has not happened yet.
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:29 pm

Hopefully sign for ROS 7
That's more than overdue
 
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Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:39 pm

ROS V7 for christmas gift :-P

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Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:41 am

No way! If they do it, what will we make fun of?
 
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No way! If they do it, what will we make fun of?
Sure, Linus Towards release Kernel 5 before ROS 7 has left Beta.....
SO it is Outdated before it is stable......
 
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No way! If they do it, what will we make fun of?
Sure, Linus Towards release Kernel 5 before ROS 7 has left Beta.....
SO it is Outdated before it is stable......
:( will be released outdated.
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Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:58 pm

Any news about date of release Ros v7?
 
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Any news about date of release Ros v7?
Maybe Christmas gift

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Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:41 am

Not yet, but soon
Do you know anything about the "soon"?

I say it to know if to continue investing money in mikrotik or move to another brand ..

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Christmas is near!!! :D :D :D
 
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Wish you something, but not ROSv7.
 
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Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:19 pm

I only want Ros v7 o New full firm arm!!
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:05 am

Well Christmas has come and gone for another year, my money is still on MUM Europe.

Even if it was realised then I would not put it into product for another 6 months until we've tested it heavily as the key features we're looking to have improved are BGP Performance, True Isolated VRF's and ipv6.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:50 am

Will the V7 add an LCD to the 4011 product line ? :D
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:33 am

Will the V7 add an LCD to the 4011 product line ? :D
Yes along with a unicorn to fetch the ROS v7 from a rainbow
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:01 pm

... to fetch the ROS v7 from a rainbow

Indeed. Cloud storage is so ... dull.
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That could be a good idea to pass to the dev team : having a unicorn on a cloud as boot logo for Beta v7 on LCD equiped routers!
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:32 pm

And then unicorn brings color LCD to RB4011 and logo changes to unicorn on a rainbow.
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Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:18 pm

And hopefully some new ARM64-based hardware as CCR replacement.
Indeed. The CCR-line is a key product for many customers. It would be very welcomed with an refreshed version with similar number/type of interfaces.
There is no need to replace the hardware if MT upgrade to the latest Linux kernel which supports Tile arch. 4.14.x IIRC. It has a lot of new networking feature, like SRv6. It would be nice if ROS v7 moved to that kernel version...
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:24 pm


What is the timeline?
if there is no cut-off date then it's just proof of concept for developers.
Alpha is exactly that - proof of concept (in a lot of ways)

They continue to work on 6.x, but 7 being a new kernel and everything means they have to make sure all existing functionality from 6.x is implemented and working properly with the major kernel changes (along with taking advantages of possible new efficient interfaces in the new kernels) so once they believe they've got a good working prototype, it'll move to Beta for public to help test.

Unfortunately, if we wanted to force their hand on v7 timeline/release schedule, they'd all but have to stop development on 6.x and that doesnt necessarily mean v7 will be quick, could you deal with 6 months+ of no further 6.x updates?

Software release cycles at the level of RouterOS are very time consuming things to get right. I'd rather have a good v7 then a rushed one.
There is no need to stop v6 development. It can continue as bugfix and relocate more development capacity to the future ROS versions if they wont want to stucked in v6 and v7alpha/insiderbeta.
The networking world growing dynamically and it won't wait to anybody who stops especially for years.
In my opinion the 3.x linux kernel is too old to satisfy the networking engineers needs in 2019...
 
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You should be able to download Router OS V7 Here - [removed] :P
 
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WRONG so WRONG
 
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Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:28 pm

Waiting for ROS v7 x64 too long...

Version v6 released in 2013. After 6 years still no ROS v7 x64 ...
>>> What's new in 6.0 (2013-May-17 14:04)

ROS v6 is based on too old kernel v3 which cannot satisfy 10% of networking needs in 2019 ...

ROS v7 should go directly for kernel v5 ... must have features must be:

1. x64 base version
2. BGP multi thread
3. Support for all new INTEL nics 10G, 40G, 100G

Such ROS v7 can have much higher price.
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Don't hope any BGP Multithreading, because it is useless (bgp is slow because of Tilera cores, and multithreading route injection in FIB is a mess), i just hope for better routing filters, i have sooooo many problems with the current implementation...
 
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We are currently evaluating alternative hardware for our BGP core as the Mikrotik OE hardware cannot support modem carrier requirements. Even with a CCR1072 we cannot run simple MPLS configuration without packet loss on route table updates.

Any recommendations on hardware would be appreciated - must have 4+ SPF+ ports. Something along the lines of http://www.lannerinc.com/products/netwo ... s/nca-4020
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:34 pm

I only want Ros v7 o New full firm arm!!
it's now march 2019 and still no news regarding v7, poor mikrotik support, so many people hope with ros 7 years.
They busy doing something else.

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Don't hope any BGP Multithreading, because it is useless (bgp is slow because of Tilera cores, and multithreading route injection in FIB is a mess), i just hope for better routing filters, i have sooooo many problems with the current implementation...
We look for x64 version v7 with multithreading to use with server hardware
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RouterOS 7 is here [removed link]! Finally!
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RouterOS 7 is here [removed link]! Finally!
@krisjanisj: nice! :lol: I think you guys really missed the opportunity to stage the release of v7beta1 on 1st April.
You could even create fake NPK, fill it with some rubbish random content (to make reasonable size) and it wouldn't do anything except writing "april fools" in the CLI after the restart... (since its beta, nobody would be really hurt)
 
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Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:31 pm

@vecernik87 I laughed about an idea to just re-brand latest v6 stable release as v7 and release it (with it showing up for example as v6.44.1(April Fools) as version while executing "/system resource print" command) last week with @reiniss2, but rather not provoke people and play with such things as this could go south really fast. When its gonna be ready - its gonna be released in proper beta format.

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@normis

Any timeline you can announce for v7 I know there was meant to be an announcement at the recent MUM but unfortunately there was not.

I'm in the same boat as many others with bgp performance issues and really need a timeline that I can give to the CEO before I have to start looking at other vendors after using mikrotik for 15 years :(
 
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@normis

Any timeline you can announce for v7 I know there was meant to be an announcement at the recent MUM but unfortunately there was not.

I'm in the same boat as many others with bgp performance issues and really need a timeline that I can give to the CEO before I have to start looking at other vendors after using mikrotik for 15 years :(
Given the lack of clarity that the community has have for the last 10 years, don't expect anything in the short/mid term. Just do what you have to do to make your business running properly. ISV's and HW ODM/OEM's come and go. It's important that companies invest in products that have a clear line of direction, otherwise be ready to be nimble and adapt to whatever the market has that fulfill your needs.
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 pm

All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:30 pm

All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:40 pm

All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.

Excellent news. I'm really enjoying the switching and VLAN use of RouterOS. Looking forward to Layer 2 security features.
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:32 pm

All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
"checks date.....nope not April 1"
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:40 pm

Can say that comparing last few years the frequency of ROS v7 internal development builds in last few months, as noted by @normis, has increased by a lot (can't tell the precise numbers because I don't want to dive that deep into math).
So there's still hope that the unicorn status v7 has will be changed to something not as mythical.
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:52 pm

That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?
I have the same question. Can you say that?
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:41 pm

That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?
I have the same question. Can you say that?
It's gonna be kernel version T.B.D :lol:
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It's gonna be kernel version T.B.D :lol:
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:58 pm

Nice to see at least some reply regarding v7.

Just want to say when it's ready enough to release some alpha version, please do so. Even if it's missing some features or doesn't work on some hardware, it would still be great to get some real world testing results. I can imagine wireless and various embedded platforms may take a lot of work, so maybe as a first peek, CHR based on v7 might be the easiest way? That would allow us to test and discover any bugs and benchmark the routing and kernel network routines, on common virtualized hardware, taking custom hardware mostly out of the equation...
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:07 pm

So there's still hope that the unicorn status v7 has will be changed to something not as mythical.
And I shall be your messiah!
#unicornsArePoniesToo #makeRouterOsGreatAgain

Ps: really thanks for this update. Brings new hopes (and new memes if you don't make it this year)
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:03 am

In all Honesty I think we need more than that to make us wait another year. Would it be too much to ask for a Video showing what the direction of ROS v7 so we can see what to expect as many of us are needing to change vendors sooner rather than later if we cannot improve certain features like BGP/MPLS/VRF @normis
 
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Humm

https://youtu.be/NbfKplzda7I

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lol Yes I was sent that this morning when only 5 people had viewed it.

Next Video Request, CPU load and MPLS VRF performance when route convergence occurs please. We cannot rung more than 1 MPLS VRF across our core of CCR1072 because of major packet loss inside the vrf every time the routing table converges.
 
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When I can use ROS v7 ?
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:39 am

Normus just said above that a beta will be available this year. I wouldn't expect the first release to be 100% complete. I would be happy to just test it out on my test network and non critical systems. :) File those bug reports and get it stable.


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When I can use ROS v7 ?
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:04 pm

All I can say is that development of v7 has picked up in the last few months, more than ever. While I can't promise anything stable, it is pretty safe to say, that some kind of public test release (like beta for specific platforms) could be expected this year. The chances of that happening are now higher than ever before, when similar promises were made.
That's great news. I believe the kernel version to this beta is already decided, right? May we know which one is?
I suspect there is no too big jump if the leaked video is real and the allocated flash space is almost the same as on ROS6.
If you compare a compiled size of Linux kernel v3 and v4 with comparable configuration, v4 is significantly bigger.
And again if the leaked video is real the CLI is changed too and its more like API syntax ;)
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2019 4:37 pm

I really hope they use v4 kernel, but MIkrotik is still selling devices with 16MB of flash (WHYYYYYYY you do this?!!!!)... so it's not looking good.
 
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We all sit and wait :) hoping :)
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We all sit and wait :) hoping :)
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:58 am

OK, please forgive my ignorance, but what are the main advantages for v7 over v6 that are expected to reach the final builds?

That's a serious question, not a troll attempt.
 
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:43 am

To my knowledge, mostly people crave for better support of multithreaded routing (which was promised long time ago) and drivers (notice references to v7)
But generally, people are hyped more than players of Diablo before release of new version. Many of them expect every trouble will be magically fixed.
 
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But generally, people are hyped more than players of Diablo before release of new version. Many of them expect every trouble will be magically fixed.
That got me laughing like a mad man. Thanks, I needed it! :D
 
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...But generally, people are hyped more than players of Diablo before release of new version...
Unlike Blizzard we tend to keep our RouterOS working on same platforms as ROSv6 does (and release mobile app for ease of configuration not migrate the whole darn thing to a cheap mobile game ripoff since "Who doesn't have phones nowadays...").
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Well, I was actually referring to time before Diablo 2 .. I guess its too old for people to remember today...
 
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Well, I was actually referring to time before Diablo 2 .. I guess its too old for people to remember today...
True, but isn't it way more funnier if the joke is relevant?
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:59 pm

I must admit that you pointed out much more relevant interpretation. I am just afraid, if it ends up that way (e.g. dropping support to mipsbe/tile etc...) Therefore I am not sure if its funnier or scarier.
 
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Nah, please public a roadmap with public informations in a correct way. Under correct I mean correct for MTik and correct for customers too.
If I working on something my boss insist plans :) Please tell us MTik plans about RouterOS development.
 
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MikroTik's plan is to release RouterOS v7 :)

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MikroTik's plan is to release RouterOS v7 :)

"Probably this year" ™
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Community driven features and minimal public roadmap is not something Mikrotik knows how to handle properly.

Since I recognize that roadmap/feature plans are difficult for the majority to "read" properly (i.e. understand that they might be (de)prioritized), at least the community driven feature requests comms could/should be improved...

Just look into how other companies are doing it:

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Fea ... ost-kudoed
https://feedback.azure.com/forums/16940 ... -directory
https://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/glo ... voice.html

I've seen numerous FR (highly voted) being made for over 5+ years with almost no follow-up or no reply at all.

As for roadmaps, there's still safe ways to share with limited impact. Example: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microso ... p?filters=

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Well, I was actually referring to time before Diablo 2 .. I guess its too old for people to remember today...
I think the hype for Diablo3 was grater than Diablo2. Don't get me wrong: I have all 3 (should have learned with D2, and never bought D3, but I digress), and hated what they did with D2.

I miss my Tank Mage, in D1. I could get hand in hand with Diablo itself - on hell difficulty - and win. No, I didn't use cheats. A lot of potions, though. :D
 
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@anthonws: MikroTik already has that... kind of. Description of this forum is "BETA Testing and Feature Suggestions for the next RouterOS release (ROS v7)", so you're welcome to post your ideas and people do so. Others comment on it to show their interest. Only the actual voting is missing. Oh and also MikroTik's interest, it seems. If there was voting, by now we'd have OpenVPN (*) on top with 10k votes and it would be sitting and waiting as it is now. So that's pointless.

(*) Actually, OpenVPN it not that important by itself. It's not THE killer feature and after such long time, anyone who needed it probably already found different ways how to satisfy their needs. It's more like a symbol now, even though it would still be nice to have.

Personally I'm a little bit skeptical about these "user voice" things. You have product used by millions and then decide what to implement based on hundereds or low thousands of votes. And you don't even know how many are from people who just came by and won't care a month after. Even from user perspective, nobody is going to browse through thousands of ideas to find good ones. You'll post yours, give few additional votes to some popular requests at the top that you also like and it will be most likely it. So how much these things can be trusted, that's a question.
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I really hope they use v4 kernel, but MIkrotik is still selling devices with 16MB of flash (WHYYYYYYY you do this?!!!!)... so it's not looking good.
The kernel version doesn't define its size... the recent kernels are big when precompiled becasue they do have more and more hardware and features integrated ; for such high perf/low latency application you go with custom build conf with only dependencies you need. There's no use having video, dvb, audio, tape drive, etc.
 
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@anthonws: MikroTik already has that... kind of. Description of this forum is "BETA Testing and Feature Suggestions for the next RouterOS release (ROS v7)", so you're welcome to post your ideas and people do so. Others comment on it to show their interest. Only the actual voting is missing. Oh and also MikroTik's interest, it seems. If there was voting, by now we'd have OpenVPN (*) on top with 10k votes and it would be sitting and waiting as it is now. So that's pointless.

(*) Actually, OpenVPN it not that important by itself. It's not THE killer feature and after such long time, anyone who needed it probably already found different ways how to satisfy their needs. It's more like a symbol now, even though it would still be nice to have.

Personally I'm a little bit skeptical about these "user voice" things. You have product used by millions and then decide what to implement based on hundereds or low thousands of votes. And you don't even know how many are from people who just came by and won't care a month after. Even from user perspective, nobody is going to browse through thousands of ideas to find good ones. You'll post yours, give few additional votes to some popular requests at the top that you also like and it will be most likely it. So how much these things can be trusted, that's a question.
What's available today is not close to any proper customer engagement. Like you stated, I can go there, ask for a feature, and have millions of people go "+1" without changing anything. Not even a mere reflection of a decision from Mikrotik. Even if it's "Will not be implemented".

I work in a company where everything related to User engagement is vital for the development of our products. We actively scout and research what and where to invest next based on multiple indicators, including platforms like UserVoice! It's thanks to them that our customers (the broader market) feels closer to the decisions being made and also that they are heard. Without the need to be a S400 and have strategic (direct) relation ships with our product teams.

If OpenVPN will never be implemented, then someone should officially state it and make sure that information sits in a place where's visible and related to the FR.

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They probably have other methods, feedback from distributors, people contacting support, MUM participants, ... so they probably know well what customers want. Being more open about their plans, and generally making customers feel closer to developement and heard, that's surely something they could improve.
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They probably have other methods, feedback from distributors, people contacting support, MUM participants, ... so they probably know well what customers want. Being more open about their plans, and generally making customers feel closer to developement and heard, that's surely something they could improve.
Not neglecting those methods of customer feedback and closer engagement.
But like you just mentioned, I also agree that Mikrotik could be a bit more transparent and/or engaged with the community on the future of the OS.
The more I think about it, the more I agree that ROS should support a plugin framework or alike.
 
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OK, please forgive my ignorance, but what are the main advantages for v7 over v6 that are expected to reach the final builds?

That's a serious question, not a troll attempt.
Personally, I'm hoping for proper IKEv2/IPSEC or OpenVPN support so that I can connect to NordVPN.
 
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Please clarify what is "proper IKEv2/IPSEC"?
 
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Please clarify what is "proper IKEv2/IPSEC"?
Probably asking for EAP authentication as initiator, which is not possible for IKEv2 atm.
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Any news about date of release Ros v7?
Maybe Christmas gift
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Any news about date of release Ros v7?
Maybe Christmas gift
Christmas in July?
Two things:
  1. Who said there will be news in July?
    1. July is synonym for summer for many people.
    2. for quite a few people, Christmas happens in the middle of summer (southern hemisphere)
  2. I wouldn't mind some positive news about ROS v7, no matter what date
BR,
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:20 am

We have a Big MUM today. I Hope news
 
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Re: v6 RC and v7 BETA

Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:47 am

I configured IPSec on one of my RoS devs, and that said don't configure base mode because it will removed in RoSv7 so something is cooking in the owen and i hope it wont burned up :)

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