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Leokpo
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60GHz CPE with a second ethernet port !!! (discussion)

Sun Dec 29, 2019 5:20 am

Could you put an additional ethernet mouth to the 60 GHz CPE´s to use for back up with 5.8 Ghz equipment? (n + 1) Back Up type ... do you understand?
Multipoint for the client with 100% availability in connectivity ...

¿Podrían poner una boca ethernet adicional a los cpe de 60 Ghz para hacer respaldatorio con equipos en 5.8 Ghz? (n+1) tipo Back Up... ¿Se entiende?
Multipunto para el cliente con 100% de disponibilidad en conectividad...

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Re: 60GHz CPE with a second ethernet port !!! (discussion)

Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:36 am

Cube does not have a 1G port :(. Yes, this is an excellent idea how to fix a 60G backup. The other port would also be useful for the LHG60G
 
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Re: 60GHz CPE with a second ethernet port !!! (discussion)

Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:58 pm

Having two GbE ports would be nice, also good for bonding. Because 60G channel capacity is more than what we can currently utilize (even 1Gb LAN speed is not enough). But instead Mikrotik is releasing products like this Cube with just 100Mb/s LAN... WHY?!! Difference is just a few $ in BOM cost, but let's just make cheapest stuff possible. Then spend months doing all the compliance testing, new boxes, marketing... all for this stupid product. It could have cost $5 more and had gigabit LAN, but NO....
And there have been calls for integrated 5G backup or multi port 60G radios for a long time, but Mikrotik doesn't want to deliver. And even if they are working on some new hardware, it will probably take a long time until it's available. Nothing has been announced yet, so that means many months before we even see something. May get some announcements on MUM next year, but as we all know from the past, that probably means actual availability in another 6-12 months...
 
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Re: 60GHz CPE with a second ethernet port !!! (discussion)

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:54 pm

You should remember that MikroTik operates in the segment of inexpensive equipment that still can do remarkable things.
Making inexpensive products can partly be achieved by managing development, support and marketing costs, but in the end there also has to be a contribution from the manufacturing costs.
There are always things that could be done better, which includes putting extra features on your product (like an extra ethernet port, next thing to ask is to have PoE loopthrough on it, have
higher port speed (which requires a more expensive PHY and maybe a different SoC) etc etc. Each may add only a couple of $ but in the end the product is more expensive, and some clients
will end up not buying your stuff either because it is too expensive for them or because they see too little price different to the next higher tier of products and buy those instead.

Also, some things simply are not that easy to design. It would be quite attractive to have a LHG-type dish that shares 60 GHz and 5 GHz function and with automatic switchover, but that
does not mean that it can be easily made. Other manufacturers that have (or have announced) such devices use either separate antennas mounted together, or they use the dish for 60 GHz
and have the 5 GHz as a much lower gain patch antenna in the same box as the dish feed but radiating directly towards the other end, not via the dish. That of course is less than optimal,
as there is much less gain margin and in the conditions where you want to switch from 60 to 5 the 5 GHz link may fail as well. So, mounting the two types alongside may be the only real
solution and the only remaining thing to wish is the loopthrough of ethernet and power.

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