So a new breed of Routers etc may be upon us very soon
Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
https://www.rogers.com/business/product ... rnet/fibre
So a new breed of Routers etc may be upon us very soon
So a new breed of Routers etc may be upon us very soon
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
Lacking info, is this like between two buildings in Toronto LOL?
Which fibre are they using. I was told once that the fibre network in Canada is govt owned and only the pole to house and modem are the ISPs concern???
Which fibre are they using. I was told once that the fibre network in Canada is govt owned and only the pole to house and modem are the ISPs concern???
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Nope not gov owned although gov may have an interest where certain subsidies are provide.Which fibre are they using. I was told once that the fibre network in Canada is govt owned and only the pole to house and modem are the ISPs concern???
Rogers have been very agressive in Ontario with Fiber installs for home and business + 5G .... Montreal also but do not know about Quebec City.
In my area all the Conduit has been laid and all the lawns now properly fixed .... I am patiently waiting for my direct Fiber connection which is now late by 2 months [promised by the contractor]. In my case All I want is 1G symmetrical
I believe EPON.
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
https://www.rogers.com/business/product ... rnet/fibre
So a new breed of Routers etc may be upon us very soon
Bring on that CCR2016-1G-12XS-2XQ, MikroTik
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
When you say EPON what do you mean.
For example my fiber comes in on a line and is inserted into an alcatel modem, the modem has ethernet out plugs which I use to connect to my router.
The technicial will likely to try to install either
a. an all in one modem router with wifi and tv.
b. if you reject that option hopefully they have the more basic internet modem only
They have to program the modem/ont with your account information takes a few minutes, plug the ont into your laptop to verify all is working.
Then plug the connection into your own router and off and running.
Sounds like you want to plug the fibre directly into the router.......... good luck with that I think that breaks terms of service and is illegal.
For example my fiber comes in on a line and is inserted into an alcatel modem, the modem has ethernet out plugs which I use to connect to my router.
The technicial will likely to try to install either
a. an all in one modem router with wifi and tv.
b. if you reject that option hopefully they have the more basic internet modem only
They have to program the modem/ont with your account information takes a few minutes, plug the ont into your laptop to verify all is working.
Then plug the connection into your own router and off and running.
Sounds like you want to plug the fibre directly into the router.......... good luck with that I think that breaks terms of service and is illegal.
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
The EPON connection starts at the headend with optical line terminations (OLT), similar to the DOCSIS CMTS. In the field the EPON architecture uses optical CPE, known as optical network units (ONU) that connect to optical taps. The ONU replaces the traditional DOCSIS cable modem. So I get an Ethernet cable from the ONU and into my Tik .... the authentication takes place in the ONU that's pre-configured for my account to deliver Triple Services .... Internet, IPTV and Phone. For non-tech people Rogers would install a CPE but in my case that would not be necessary as described. This makes EVERYTHING pure KISS.When you say EPON what do you mean.
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Sounds like you want to plug the fibre directly into the router.......... good luck with that I think that breaks terms of service and is illegal.
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Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
If you say so, nice review of terminology I have no clue about, but dont be suprized if you cannot use your router if you want triple play.
(my experience with bell fibre, perhaps Rogers is doing something else).
(my experience with bell fibre, perhaps Rogers is doing something else).
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
Bell makes their GPON complex .....
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
What could I say ...CISCO has 100Gb cards for their Nexus line ... price @ 55k$ ...
Who expects that MKT will do it for 55$ or 550$ or even 5500$ to make users happy?
Who expects that MKT will do it for 55$ or 550$ or even 5500$ to make users happy?
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
There is, besides a few other CCR2004s, a CR2016-1G-12XS-2XQ (12x25G, 2x100G) in the offing, as discussed here (thread called 'just leaving this here'). At least references to it are hidden in the RouterOS 7beta binaries.
Given the price of the current CCR2004, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out cheaper than the CCR1072...
Given the price of the current CCR2004, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out cheaper than the CCR1072...
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Given the price of the current CCR2004, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out cheaper than the CCR1072...
Yeah, CCR1072 (or even any model from CCR line) is surely one of first choices of a typical Mikrotik home user with GPON (or similar) ...
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Of course not. We were talking about 100G internet connections. At least, that's what we started out with.
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
And I (sadly?) share views by @BartoszP ... that 100Gbps is nowadays too expensive for MT range. And I don't mean the possibility of adding a 100Gbps interface, I'm talking about capability of routing at that speed.
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And I (sadly?) share views by @BartoszP ... that 100Gbps is nowadays too expensive for MT range. And I don't mean the possibility of adding a 100Gbps interface, I'm talking about capability of routing at that speed.
The as yet hypothetical CCR2016 could, if we look at what the current CCR2004 can do and assume linear scaling, do about 150Gbps. That's as close as we're likely to get in the near future...
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If you can spend the money on a 100Gbps Internet connection, then the cost of the router is no issue.
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Just like what Cisco charges you for an interface card, the price that you get charged for a 100Gbps Internet connection is mostly arbitrary.If you can spend the money on a 100Gbps Internet connection, then the cost of the router is no issue.
They will charge what the customer is prepared to pay.
And for residential use, the amount may be like $200/month. For business it might well be 20000/month or more. For the same line.
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
The as yet hypothetical CCR2016 could, if we look at what the current CCR2004 can do and assume linear scaling, do about 150Gbps. That's as close as we're likely to get in the near future...
To be able to realistically saturate 100Gbps line, router would have to be able to route at at least 250Gbps according to official test results ... and this number should stand where there's 4538Mbps for CCR2004. Not sure if CCR2016 will be that much faster than existing CCR2004.
Re: Rogers now has 100G symmetrical Internet
To be able to realistically saturate 100Gbps line, router would have to be able to route at at least 250Gbps according to official test results ... and this number should stand where there's 4538Mbps for CCR2004. Not sure if CCR2016 will be that much faster than existing CCR2004.
Unless they pull a very big rabbit out of the hat, it won't be. I expect it to be about four times faster than the CCR2004 given that it has 16 cores instead of 4 (assuming the same clock). That gives it 150-ish Gbps going flat out (simple routing at 1518 bytes). Doing something more like ordinary use will probably bring that down an order of magnitude, like you say. The CCR2004 loses a lot of forwarding performance going from 'just routing max-size frames' to 'routing mid-size frames with some firewall rules' More so than other MT boxes.
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